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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add __GFP_MOVABLE for callers to flag allocations that may be migrated
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:19:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061204131959.bdeeee41.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612041211390.32337@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:17:26 -0800 (PST)
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> > I suspect you'll have to live with that.  I've yet to see a vaguely sane
> > proposal to otherwise prevent unreclaimable, unmoveable kernel allocations
> > from landing in a hot-unpluggable physical memory region.
> 
> Mel's approach already mananges memory in a chunks of MAX_ORDER. It is 
> easy to just restrict the unmovable types of allocation to a section of 
> the zone.

What happens when we need to run reclaim against just a section of a zone?
Lumpy-reclaim could be used here; perhaps that's Mel's approach too?

We'd need new infrastructure to perform the
section-of-a-zone<->physical-memory-block mapping, and to track various
states of the section-of-a-zone.  This will be complex, and buggy.  It will
probably require the introduction of some sort of "sub-zone" structure.  At
which stage people would be justified in asking "why didn't you just use
zones - that's what they're for?"

> Then we should be doing some work to cut down the number of unmovable 
> allocations.

That's rather pointless.  A feature is either reliable or it is not.  We'll
never be able to make all kernel allocations reclaimable/moveable so we'll
never be reliable with this approach.  I don't see any alternative to the
never-allocate-kernel-objects-in-removeable-memory approach.  

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-04 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-30 17:07 Mel Gorman
2006-12-01  1:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-01  9:54   ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-01 19:01     ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 14:07       ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-04 19:30         ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 19:41           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-04 20:06             ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 20:17               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-04 21:19                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-12-04 21:43                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-04 22:22                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 16:00                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 19:25                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 20:01                           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 21:47                             ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 23:33                               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06  9:31                                 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-06 17:31                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08  1:21                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-12-08  2:20                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08  6:11                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-12-05 18:10                       ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-04 20:34           ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-04 22:34             ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 23:45               ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05  1:16                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-12-05 10:03                   ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 16:05                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 18:26                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 19:59                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 16:14                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 17:17                   ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 19:54                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 15:52               ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-12-05 15:48             ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-12-04 20:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-12-06 14:18             ` Andy Whitcroft

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