From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: ptrace and pfn mappings
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:31:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061010123128.GA23775@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160442987.32237.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:16:27AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> And the last of my "issues" here:
>
> get_user_pages() can't handle pfn mappings, thus access_process_vm()
> can't, and thus ptrace can't. When they were limited to dodgy /dev/mem
> things, it was probably ok. But with more drivers needing that, like the
> DRM, sound drivers, and now with SPU problem state registers and local
> store mapped that way, it's becoming a real issues to be unable to
> access any of those mappings from gdb.
>
> The "easy" way out I can see, but it may have all sort of bad side
> effects I haven't thought about at this point, is to switch the mm in
> access_process_vm (at least if it's hitting such a VMA).
Switching the mm is definitly no acceptable. Too many things could
break when violating the existing assumptions.
> That do you guys think ? Any better idea ? The problem with mappings
> like what SPUfs or the DRM want is that they can change (be remapped
> between HW and backup memory, as described in previous emails), thus we
> don't want to get struct pages even if available and peek at them as
> they might not be valid anymore, same with PFNs (we could imagine
> ioremap'ing those PFN's but that would be racy too). The only way that
> is guaranteed not to be racy is to do exactly what a user do, that is do
> user accesses via the target process vm itself....
I think the best idea is to add a new ->access method to the vm_operations
that's called by access_process_vm() when it exists and VM_IO or VM_PFNMAP
are set. ->access would take the required object locks and copy out the
data manually. This should work both for spufs and drm.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-10 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-09 16:12 [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1-git5: consolidation of file backed fault handlers Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 1/5] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate check Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 2/5] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate race fix Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 21:10 ` Mark Fasheh
2006-10-10 1:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-11 18:34 ` Mark Fasheh
2006-10-12 3:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 3/5] mm: fault handler to replace nopage and populate Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 4/5] mm: add vm_insert_pfn helpler Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 0:42 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 1:11 ` faults and signals Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 1:20 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 1:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 2:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 1:16 ` ptrace and pfn mappings Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:23 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 2:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 3:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 3:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:58 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 3:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 3:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 4:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2006-10-10 12:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 18:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-09 16:13 ` [patch 5/5] mm: merge nopfn with fault handler Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 20:57 ` [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1-git5: consolidation of file backed fault handlers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 21:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 0:53 ` Nick Piggin
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