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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: pj@sgi.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: Radical idea
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:13:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200609172013.27095.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609170543590.14541@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

> 
> And yes it would only work the DMA32 problems mentioned by Andi could be
> addressed. Do we really need DMA32 in modern systems with IOMMUs?

We do.

In fact we still need DMA-without-32 on most systems (after all most users
still want to use their floppy occasionally and it is needed for a few other
devices too)

> Isnt this a transitionary problem that will go away?

Not any time soon.

> So lets say we have one of those systems without IOMMU. Then we only have 
> a problem for a class of NUMA systems that have:
> 
> 1. Memory beyond 4GB
> 
> and
> 
> 2. Per node memory less than 4GB. Otherwise DMA32 is only on node 0.
> 
> Isnt this a fairly small group of systems?

I don't think so. e.g. a lot of quad opteron configurations come with 1 or 2GB per
socket (= node) 

Anyways, even if it was uncommon we couldn't just break it. So i'm not sure what
the point of your "popularity contest" is?

-Andi

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-17 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-17 13:01 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-17 13:20 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 18:13 ` Andi Kleen [this message]

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