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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: clameter@sgi.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] GFP_THISNODE for the slab allocator
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:10:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060916161031.4b7c2470.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060916145117.9b44786d.pj@sgi.com>

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:51:17 -0700
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > Pretty much all loads?  If you haven't consumed most of the "container"'s
> > memory then you have overprovisioned its size.
> 
> Not so on real NUMA boxes.

I meant pretty much all loads when employing this trick of reusing the NUMA
code for containerisation.

>  If you configure your system so that
> you are having to go a long way off-node for much of your memory,
> then your performance is screwed.
> 
> No one in their right mind would run a memory hog that eats 40 nodes
> of memory and a kernel build both in the same 60 node, small CPU
> count cpuset on a real NUMA box.
> 
> The primary motivation for cpusets is to improve memory locality on
> NUMA boxes.  You're using fake numa and cpusets to simulate destroying
> memory locality.
> 
> On a real 64 node NUMA box, there would be 64 differently sorted
> zonelists, each one centered on a different node.  The kernel build
> would be running on different CPUs, associated with different nodes
> than the memory hog, and it would be using zonelists that had the
> unloaded (still has free memory) nodes at the front the list.
> 
> Aha - maybe this is the problem - the fake numa stuff is missing the
> properly sorted zone lists.

I don't see how any of this could help.  If one has a memory container
which is constructed from 50 zones, that linear search is just going to do
a lot of linear searching when the container approaches anything like
fullness.

It could well be a single CPU machine...

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-16 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-13 23:50 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-15  5:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-15  6:49   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-15  7:23     ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-15  7:44       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-15  8:06         ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-15 15:53           ` David Rientjes
2006-09-15 23:03           ` David Rientjes
2006-09-16  0:04             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16  1:36               ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-16  2:23                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-16  4:34                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-16  3:28                 ` [PATCH] Add node to zone for the NUMA case Christoph Lameter
2006-09-16  3:40                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16  3:45                 ` [PATCH] GFP_THISNODE for the slab allocator Paul Jackson
2006-09-16  2:47             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-17  3:45             ` David Rientjes
2006-09-17 11:17               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 12:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-17 13:03                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 20:36                     ` David Rientjes
2006-09-17 21:20                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 22:27                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 23:49                         ` David Rientjes
2006-09-18  2:20                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-18 16:34                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-18 17:49                               ` David Rientjes
2006-09-18 20:46                                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-19 20:52                               ` David Rientjes
2006-09-19 21:26                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-19 21:50                                   ` David Rientjes
2006-09-21 22:11                                 ` David Rientjes
2006-09-22 10:10                                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-22 16:26                                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-22 16:36                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-15  8:28       ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-16  3:38         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16  4:42           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-16 11:38             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16  4:48           ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-16 11:30             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16 15:18               ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-17  9:28                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17  9:51                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-17 11:15                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 12:44                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-17 13:19                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 13:52                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-17 21:19                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-18 12:44                             ` [PATCH] mm: exempt pcp alloc from watermarks Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-18 20:20                               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 20:43                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-19 14:35                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-19 14:44                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-19 15:02                                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-19 14:51                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-19 15:10                                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-19 15:05                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-19 15:39                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-17 16:29                   ` [PATCH] GFP_THISNODE for the slab allocator Andrew Morton
2006-09-18  2:11                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-18  5:09                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-18  7:49                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16 11:48       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16 15:38         ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-16 21:51           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-16 23:10             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-09-17  4:37               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-17  4:55                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-17 12:09                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-17 12:36                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-17 13:06                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-19 19:17                 ` David Rientjes
2006-09-19 19:19                   ` David Rientjes
2006-09-19 19:31                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-19 21:12                     ` David Rientjes
2006-09-19 21:28                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-19 21:53                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-15 17:08   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-15 17:37   ` [PATCH] Add NUMA_BUILD definition in kernel.h to avoid #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-15 17:38   ` [PATCH] Disable GFP_THISNODE in the non-NUMA case Christoph Lameter
2006-09-15 17:42   ` [PATCH] GFP_THISNODE for the slab allocator V2 Christoph Lameter

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