From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>,
Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V1
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:49:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060913174948.GA6533@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609131015360.17927@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:23:10AM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>
> > > There was the floppy driver and one type of USB stick that I noticed
> > > during the work on the project. But other drivers may depend also depend
> > > indirectly on DMA functionality and may also be disabled.
> >
> > Ok, USB should ring alarm bells, floppy I think is less relevant these
> > days :)
>
> If you want all drivers then you must of course have ZONE_DMA.
> Distributions that want to cover all drivers will have it on by default
> and ZONE_DMA is available by default.
>
> However, if you want to create a lean and mean kernel then you can switch
> ZONE_DMA off and if there is just one zone left then the VM can
> optimized much better because loops are avoided and some macros
> become constant etc etc.
>
> Some architectures never need ZONE_DMA because all hardware supports DMA
> to all of memory. SGI Altix is one example. Carrying an additional
> useless zone around unecessarily bloats the kernel both in term of code
> and data. Data is a particular issue since zones contain per cpu elements.
> For a 1k cpu 1k node configuration this saves around 1 million per cpu
> structures (one zone per node with 1k per cpu pagesets).
>
Most distros release GENERIC kernels for IA64. If _any_ IA64 platform requires
ZONE_DMA, then it must be configured ON.
Two questions:
- will any IA64 platform require that ZONE_DMA be enabled (I think
the answer is "yes")
- if ZONE_DMA is enabled, ALTIX will still use only 1 zone. In your
statement above, you say that disabling ZONE_DMA save 1M cpu
structures. If ZONE_DMA is enabled, will these 1M structure be allocated
on SN even though they are not needed?
-- jack
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-18 18:36 [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V2 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] Deal with cases of ZONE_DMA meaning the first zone Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 2/8] Introduce CONFIG_ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 3/8] Optional ZONE_DMA in the VM Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 4/8] Optional ZONE_DMA for i386 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] Optional ZONE_DMA for x86_64 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 6/8] Optional ZONE_DMA for ia64 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 7/8] Remove ZONE_DMA remains from parisc Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 8/8] Remove ZONE_DMA remains from sh/sh64 Christoph Lameter
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2006-09-12 1:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] Optional ZONE_DMA in the VM Christoph Lameter
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[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609121032310.11278@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
2006-09-12 17:47 ` [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V1 Martin Bligh
2006-09-12 17:53 ` Christoph Lameter
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2006-09-13 17:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 17:49 ` Jack Steiner [this message]
2006-09-13 18:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-14 8:52 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-14 16:55 ` Christoph Lameter
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2006-09-18 17:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] Introduce CONFIG_ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 22:45 ` Paul Mundt
2006-09-18 22:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 23:25 ` Paul Mundt
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2006-09-11 22:30 [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V1 Christoph Lameter
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