From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mason@suse.com,
andrea@suse.de, hugh@veritas.com, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] remove racy sync_page?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:05:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060530090549.GF4199@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060529201444.cd89e0d8.akpm@osdl.org>
On Mon, May 29 2006, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:54:53 +1000
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 30 May 2006 10:08:06 +1000
> > >Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Which is what I want to know. I don't exactly have an interesting
> > >>disk setup.
> > >>
> > >
> > >You don't need one - just a single disk should show up such problems. I
> > >forget which workloads though. Perhaps just a linear read (readahead
> > >queues the I/O but doesn't unplug, subsequent lock_page() sulks).
> > >
> >
> > I guess so. Is plugging still needed now that the IO layer should
> > get larger requests? Disabling it might result in a small initial
> > request (although even that may be good for pipelining)...
>
> Mysterious question, that. A few years ago I think Jens tried pulling
> unplugging out, but some devices still want it (magneto-optical
> storage iirc). And I think we did try removing it, and it caused
> hurt.
I did, back when we had problems due to the blk_plug_lock being a global
one. I first wanted to investigate if plugging still made a difference,
otherwise we could've just ripped it out back than and the problem would
be solved. But it did get us about a 10% boost on normal SCSI drives
(don't think I tested MO drives at all), so it was fixed up.
> > sync_page wants to get either the current mapping, or a NULL one.
> > The sync_page methods must then be able to handle running into a
> > NULL mapping.
> >
> > With splice, the mapping can change, so you can have the wrong
> > sync_page callback run against the page.
>
> Oh.
Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see a problem there. You _should_
call the new mapping sync page if it has been migrated.
> > >>Well yes, writing to a page would be the main reason to set it dirty.
> > >>Is splice broken as well? I'm not sure that it always has a ref on the
> > >>inode when stealing a page.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Whereabouts?
> > >
> >
> > The ->pin() calls in pipe_to_file and pipe_to_sendpage?
>
> One for Jens...
splice never incs/decs any inode related reference counts, so if it
needs to then yes it's broken. Any references to kernel code that deals
with that?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-30 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-29 9:34 Nick Piggin
2006-05-29 19:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 0:08 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 1:32 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 2:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 3:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 4:13 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 9:05 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-05-31 13:43 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 15:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 17:51 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 17:50 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-30 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-30 5:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 5:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 6:12 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-30 7:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 4:34 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-30 8:24 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-05-30 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 0:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 1:33 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-31 6:11 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 12:55 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-31 13:02 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 13:19 ` NCQ performance (was Re: [rfc][patch] remove racy sync_page?) Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-01 15:03 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 18:04 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-05 5:30 ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-05 7:59 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 12:31 ` [rfc][patch] remove racy sync_page? Helge Hafting
2006-05-31 12:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-31 13:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 13:41 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 13:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 14:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 14:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 18:13 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-30 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 18:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 0:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 3:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 14:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 17:56 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-30 5:51 ` Josef Sipek
2006-05-30 6:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 6:50 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 13:12 ` Josef Sipek
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