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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, ak@suse.de, pj@sgi.com, kravetz@us.ibm.com,
	marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com, taka@valinux.co.jp,
	lee.schermerhorn@hp.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Status and the future of page migration
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:35:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060512103553.fafce5b2.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0605111758400.17334@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Thu, 11 May 2006 18:06:20 -0700 (PDT)
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 May 2006, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> 
> > > 4. A new system call for the migration of lists of pages (incomplete
> > >    implementation!)
> > > 
> > >    sys_move_pages([int pid,?] int nr_pages, unsigned long *addresses,
> > >    		int *nodes, unsigned int flags);
> > > 
> > >    This function would migrate individual pages of a process to specific nodes.
> > >    F.e. user space tools exist that can provide off node access statistics
> > >    that show from what node a pages is most frequently accessed.
> > >    Additional code could then use this new system call to migrate the lists
> > >    of pages to the more advantageous location. Automatic page migration
> > >    could be implemented in user space. Many of us remain unconvinced that
> > >    automatic page migration can provide a consistent benefit.
> > >    This API would allow the implementation of various automatic migration
> > >    methods without changes to the kernel.
> > > 
> > Maybe implementing the interface to show necessary information to do this is
> > necessary before doing this. A user process can get enough precise information now ?
> 
> What precise information would be needed? We could return the current node 
> information in a status array. Right I forgot to include the status array 
> that returns success / or failure of the call. The status array would 
> allow to find out the failure reason for each page.
> 
I'm sorry I missed "F.e. user space..."
BTW, we can get statistics of off-node-access for each vma now ?



> > > - Implement the migration of mlocked pages. This would mean to ignore
> > >   VM_LOCKED in try_to_unmap. Currently VM_LOCKED can be used to prevent the
> > >   migration of pages. If we allow the migration of mlocked pages then we
> > >   would need to introduce some alternate means of being able to declare a
> > >   page not migratable (VM_DONTMIGRATE?).
> > >   Not sure if this should be done at all.
> > > 
> > I think VM_LOCKED just means the address has the physical page. So I think
> > migration is Okay. But I don't think VM_DONTMIGRATE is necessary..
> 
> You are right but there may be system components (such as device drivers) 
> that require the page not to be moved. Without page migration VM_LOCKED 
> implies that the physical address stays the same. Kernel code may assume 
> that VM_LOCKED -> dont migrate.
> 
Hmm.. I think such pages should have extra refcnt to prevent migration.


-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-12  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-12  0:06 Christoph Lameter
2006-05-12  0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-05-12  1:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-12  1:35     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2006-05-12  1:43       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-12  2:08         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-05-12  3:21           ` Christoph Lameter

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