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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	ck@vds.kolivas.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: yield during swap prefetching
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:30:13 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603091330.14396.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <440F9154.2080909@yahoo.com.au>

On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 01:22 pm, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >On Ut 07-03-06 16:05:15, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>Why do you want that?
> >>
> >>If prefetch is doing its job then it will save the machine from a pile of
> >>major faults in the near future.  The fact that the machine happens
> >
> >Or maybe not.... it is prefetch, it may prefetch wrongly, and you
> >definitely want it doing nothing when system is loaded.... It only
> >makes sense to prefetch when system is idle.
>
> Right. Prefetching is obviously going to have a very low work/benefit,
> assuming your page reclaim is working properly, because a) it doesn't
> deal with file pages, and b) it is doing work to reclaim pages that
> have already been deemed to be the least important.
>
> What it is good for is working around our interesting VM that apparently
> allows updatedb to swap everything out (although I haven't seen this
> problem myself), and artificial memory hogs. By moving work to times of
> low cost. No problem with the theory behind it.
>
> So as much as a major fault costs in terms of performance, the tiny
> chance that prefetching will avoid it means even the CPU usage is
> questionable. Using sched_yield() seems like a hack though.

Yeah it's a hack alright. Funny how at last I find a place where yield does 
exactly what I want and because we hate yield so much noone wants me to use 
it all.

Cheers,
Con

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-09  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-07 23:13 Con Kolivas
2006-03-07 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-07 23:32   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  0:05     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08  0:51       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  1:11         ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08  1:12           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  1:19             ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  1:23             ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08  1:28               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:08                 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  2:12                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:18                     ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  2:22                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:27                         ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  2:30                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:52                             ` [ck] " André Goddard Rosa
2006-03-08  3:03                               ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  3:05                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 21:07                                 ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-08 23:00                                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 23:48                                     ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-09  0:07                                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  3:13                                         ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-09  4:08                                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  4:54                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  7:51                 ` Jan Knutar
2006-03-08  8:39                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  8:57             ` Helge Hafting
2006-03-09  9:08               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09 22:44                 ` Peter Williams
2006-03-10  9:01                   ` [ck] " Andreas Mohr
2006-03-10  9:11                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-10  0:58                 ` Peter Williams
2006-03-08 22:24       ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-09  2:22         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09  2:30           ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-03-09  2:57             ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09  9:11               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 13:36     ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2006-03-17  9:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-08  8:48   ` Andreas Mohr
2006-03-08  8:52     ` Con Kolivas

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