From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Matthew Dobson <colpatch@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andrea@suse.de,
Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Critical Page Pool
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:08:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051214100841.GA18381@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <439FCECA.3060909@us.ibm.com>
Hi!
> The overall purpose of this patch series is to all a system administrator
> to reserve a number of pages in a 'critical pool' that is set aside for
> situations when the system is 'in emergency'. It is up to the individual
> administrator to determine when his/her system is 'in emergency'. This is
> not meant to (necessarily) anticipate OOM situations, though that is
> certainly one possible use. The purpose this was originally designed for
> is to allow the networking code to keep functioning despite the sytem
> losing its (potentially networked) swap device, and thus temporarily
> putting the system under exreme memory pressure.
I don't see how this can ever work.
How can _userspace_ know about what allocations are critical to the
kernel?!
And as you noticed, it does not work for your original usage case,
because reserved memory pool would have to be "sum of all network
interface bandwidths * ammount of time expected to survive without
network" which is way too much.
If you want few emergency pages for some strange hack you are doing
(swapping over network?), just put swap into ramdisk and swapon() it
when you are in emergency, or use memory hotplug and plug few more
gigabytes into your machine. But don't go introducing infrastructure
that _can't_ be used right.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-14 10:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-14 7:50 Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 7:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] Create " Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 10:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-12-14 13:30 ` Rik van Riel
2005-12-14 16:26 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-15 3:29 ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-14 7:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] in_emergency Trigger Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 7:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] Slab Prep: get/return_object Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 8:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-14 16:26 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 7:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] Slab Prep: slab_destruct() Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 8:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-14 16:30 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 7:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] Slab Prep: Move cache_grow() Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 8:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] Critical Page Pool: Slab Support Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 10:08 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-14 12:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Critical Page Pool Andrea Arcangeli
2005-12-14 13:03 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-14 16:37 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-15 16:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 16:03 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-14 15:55 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-15 16:26 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-15 21:51 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-12-16 5:02 ` Sridhar Samudrala
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