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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] properly account readahead file major faults
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:23:21 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051122062321.GA30413@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122042443.GA4588@mail.ustc.edu.cn>

Hi Wu!

On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 12:24:43PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 12:00:38PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The fault accounting of filemap_dopage() is currently unable to account
> > for readahead pages as major faults.
> 
> Sorry, I don't know much about the definition of major/minor page faults.
> So I googled one that explains the old behavior:
> 
> --> Page Faults <--
> These come in two varieties. Minor and Major faults. A Major fault results
> when an application tries to access a memory page that has been swapped out to
> disk. The page must be swapped back in. A Minor fault results when an
> application tries to access a memory page that is still in memory, but the
> physical location of which is not immediately known. The address must be
> looked up.

Yep, just that "swapped out"/"swappin in" can be though of as "read
in/"read out".

> With the current accounting logic:
> - major faults reflect the times one has to wait for real I/O.
> - the more success read-ahead, the less major faults.
> - anyway, major+minor faults remain the same for the same benchmark.
> 
> With your patch:
> - major faults are expected to remain the same with whatever read-ahead.
> - but what's the new meaning of minor faults?

With the patch minor faults are only those faults which can be serviced
by the pagecache, requiring no I/O.

Pages which hit the first time in cache due to readahead _have_ caused
IO, and as such they should be counted as major faults.

I suppose that if you want to count readahead hits it should be done
separately (which is now "sort of" available with the "majflt" field).

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-21 14:00 Marcelo Tosatti
2005-11-22  4:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-11-22  6:23   ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2005-11-22 12:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2005-11-22 12:55     ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-22  8:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-11-22 16:05         ` Charles Ballowe
2005-11-22 10:54           ` Marcelo Tosatti

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