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From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: ak@suse.de, akpm@osdl.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH]: Clean up of __alloc_pages
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:46:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051107014659.14c2631b.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <436EEF43.2050403@yahoo.com.au>

Nick wrote:
> Yeah, take a look at rmap.c as well, and some of the comments in
> changelogs if you need a better feel for it.

Ok - thanks.


> So your cpusets may be reused, but only as new cpusets. This should
> be no problem at all for you.

Correct - should be no problem.


> > And is the pair of operators:
> >   task_lock(current), task_unlock(current)
> > really that much worse than the pair of operators
> >   ...
> >   preempt_disable, preempt_enable

That part still surprises me a little.  Is there enough difference in
the performance between:

  1) task_lock, which is a spinlock on current->alloc_lock and
  2) rcu_read_lock, which is .preempt_count++; barrier()

to justify a separate slab cache for cpusets and a little more code?

For all I know (not much) the task_lock might actually be cheaper ;).


> You may also have to be careful about memory ordering when setting
> a pointer which may be concurrently dereferenced by another CPU so
> that stale data doesn't get picked up.
> 
> The set side needs an rcu_assign_pointer, and the dereference side
> needs rcu_dereference. Unless you either don't care about races,

I don't think I care ...  I'm just sampling task->cpuset->mems_generation,
looking for it to change.  Sooner or later, after it changes, I will get
an accurate read of it, realized it changed, and immediately down a
cpuset semaphore and reread all values of interest.

The semaphore down means doing an atomic_dec_return(), which imposes
a memory barrier, right?


> My RCU suggestion was mainly an idea to get around your immediate
> problem with a lockless fastpath, rather than advocating it over
> any of the alternatives.

Understood.  Thanks for your comments on the alternatives - they
seem reasonable.

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                  Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.925.600.0401

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-07  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-29  1:33 Rohit, Seth
2005-10-29  2:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 20:55   ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-01  1:14     ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 18:15       ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-05  0:00         ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  0:16 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 19:09   ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-05 17:09   ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06  4:18     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 17:35       ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06 20:49         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  2:57           ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  3:42             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-07  4:37               ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  6:08                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  9:46                   ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2005-11-07 10:17                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07 14:41                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  3:44             ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  1:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:01   ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:19     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:32       ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:06         ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:53           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:26     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:36       ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:09         ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:55           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  4:11             ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 21:20   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-31 21:28     ` Paul Jackson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-05  1:57 Seth, Rohit
2005-10-01 19:00 Seth, Rohit
2005-10-02  3:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-03 16:50   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 15:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 16:55   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 16:57     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 17:48       ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-04 13:27         ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-04 16:26           ` Ray Bryant
2005-10-04 16:10             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-04 17:02               ` Ray Bryant

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