Re: [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19

[Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>]

On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:07:33AM -0600, Rob Landley wrote:
> I want UML to 
> be able to hand back however much memory it's not using, but handing back 
> individual pages as we free them and inserting a syscall overhead for every 
> page freed and allocated is just nuts.  (Plus, at page size, the OS isn't 
> likely to zero them much faster than we can ourselves even without the 
> syscall overhead.)  Defragmentation means we can batch this into a 
> granularity that makes it worth it.

I don't think that freeing pages back to the host in free_pages is the
way to go.  The normal behavior for a Linux system, virtual or
physical, is to use all the memory it has.  So, any memory that's
freed is pretty likely to be reused for something else, wasting any
effort that's made to free pages back to the host.

The one counter-example I can think of is when a large process with a
lot of data exits.  Then its data pages will be freed and they may
stay free for a while until the system finds other data to fill them
with.

Also, it's not the virtual machine's job to know how to make the host
perform optimally.  It doesn't have the information to do it.  It's
perfectly OK for a UML to hang on to memory if the host has plenty
free.  So, it's the host's job to make sure that its memory pressure
is reflected to the UMLs.

My current thinking is that you'll have a daemon on the host keeping
track of memory pressure on the host and the UMLs, plugging and
unplugging memory in order to keep the busy machines, including the
host, supplied with memory, and periodically pushing down the memory
of idle UMLs in order to force them to GC their page caches.

With Badari's patch and UML memory hotplug, the infrastructure is
there to make this work.  The one thing I'm puzzling over right now is
how to measure memory pressure.

				Jeff

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