From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Bharata B Rao <bharata@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:08:43 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050914230843.GA11748@dmt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050913084752.GC4474@in.ibm.com>
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 02:17:52PM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:16:36PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 05:30:46PM +0530, Dipankar Sarma wrote:
> > > Do you have the /proc/sys/fs/dentry-state output when such lowmem
> > > shortage happens ?
> >
> > Not yet, but the situation occurs on my laptop about 2 or 3 times
> > (when I'm not travelling and so it doesn't get rebooted). So
> > reproducing it isn't utterly trivial, but it's does happen often
> > enough that it should be possible to get the necessary data.
> >
> > > This is a problem that Bharata has been investigating at the moment.
> > > But he hasn't seen anything that can't be cured by a small memory
> > > pressure - IOW, dentries do get freed under memory pressure. So
> > > your case might be very useful. Bharata is maintaing an instrumentation
> > > patch to collect more information and an alternative dentry aging patch
> > > (using rbtree). Perhaps you could try with those.
> >
> > Send it to me, and I'd be happy to try either the instrumentation
> > patch or the dentry aging patch.
> >
>
> Ted,
>
> I am sending two patches here.
>
> First is dentry_stats patch which collects some dcache statistics
> and puts it into /proc/meminfo. This patch provides information
> about how dentries are distributed in dcache slab pages, how many
> free and in use dentries are present in dentry_unused lru list and
> how prune_dcache() performs with respect to freeing the requested
> number of dentries.
Bharata,
Ideally one should move the "nr_requested/nr_freed" counters from your
stats patch into "struct shrinker" (or somewhere else more appropriate
in which per-shrinkable-cache stats are maintained), and use the
"mod_page_state" infrastructure to do lockless per-CPU accounting. ie.
break /proc/vmstats's "slabs_scanned" apart in meaningful pieces.
IMO something along that line should be merged into mainline to walk
away from the "what the fuck is going on" state of things.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-14 23:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-11 10:57 Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-11 12:00 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-12 3:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-12 6:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-12 12:53 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13 8:47 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13 21:59 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-14 9:16 ` Manfred Spraul
2005-09-14 9:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 9:52 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-14 22:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-14 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 13:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-14 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15 7:21 ` Helge Hafting
2005-09-14 22:48 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 15:48 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 22:02 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 22:40 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15 1:14 ` David Chinner
2005-10-06 6:27 ` [PATCH] dcache: separate slab for directory dentries David Chinner, gnb
2005-10-06 12:28 ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-10-07 3:54 ` Greg Banks
2005-10-07 13:00 ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-09-14 21:34 ` VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-14 21:43 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-15 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-14 23:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2005-09-15 9:39 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-15 13:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-02 16:32 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-10-02 20:06 ` Marcelo
2005-10-04 13:36 ` shrinkable cache statistics [was Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough] Bharata B Rao
2005-10-05 21:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-07 8:12 ` Bharata B Rao
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