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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	ak@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, bharata@in.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:44:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050914224456.GA32082@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050914024313.1e70f2a3.akpm@osdl.org>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:43:13AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com> wrote:
> >
> > One tricky point are directory dentries: As far as I see, they are 
> >  pinned and unfreeable if a (freeable) directory entry is in the cache.
> >
> 
> Well.  That's the whole problem.
> 
> I don't think it's been demonstrated that Ted's problem was caused by
> internal fragementation, btw.  Ted, could you run slabtop, see what the
> dcache occupancy is?  Monitor it as you start to manually apply pressure? 
> If the occupancy falls to 10% and not many slab pages are freed up yet then
> yup, it's internal fragmentation.

The next time I can get my machine into that state, sure, I'll try it.
I used to be able to reproduce it using normal laptop usage patterns
(Lotus notes running under wine, kernel builds, apt-get upgrade's,
openoffice, firefox, etc.)  about twice a week with 2.6.13-rc5, but
with 2.6.13, it happened once or twice, but since then I haven't been
able to trigger it.  (Predictably, not after I posted about it on
LKML.  :-/)

I've been trying a few things in the hopes of deliberately triggering
it, but so far, no luck.  Maybe I should go back to 2.6.13-rc5 and see
if I have an easier time of reproducing the failure case.

						- Ted
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-14 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-11 10:57 Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-11 12:00 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-12  3:16   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-12  6:16     ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-12 12:53       ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13  8:47     ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13 21:59       ` David Chinner
2005-09-14  9:01         ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-14  9:16           ` Manfred Spraul
2005-09-14  9:43             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14  9:52               ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-14 22:44               ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2005-09-14  9:35           ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 13:57           ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-14 15:37             ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15  7:21             ` Helge Hafting
2005-09-14 22:48           ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 15:48         ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 22:02           ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 22:40             ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15  1:14               ` David Chinner
2005-10-06  6:27         ` [PATCH] dcache: separate slab for directory dentries David Chinner, gnb
2005-10-06 12:28           ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-10-07  3:54             ` Greg Banks
2005-10-07 13:00               ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-09-14 21:34       ` VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-14 21:43         ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-15  4:28         ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-14 23:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-15  9:39         ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-15 13:29           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-02 16:32             ` Bharata B Rao
2005-10-02 20:06               ` Marcelo
2005-10-04 13:36                 ` shrinkable cache statistics [was Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough] Bharata B Rao
2005-10-05 21:25                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-07  8:12                     ` Bharata B Rao

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