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From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Bharata B. Rao" <bharata@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:30:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050911120045.GA4477@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050911105709.GA16369@thunk.org>

Hi Ted,

On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 06:57:09AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> 
> I have a T40 laptop (Pentium M processor) with 2 gigs of memory, and
> from time to time, after the system has been up for a while, the
> dentry cache grows huge, as does the ext3_inode_cache:
> 
> slabinfo - version: 2.1
> # name            <active_objs> <num_objs> <objsize> <objperslab> <pagesperslab> : tunables <limit> <batchcount> <sharedfactor> : slabdata <active_slabs> <num_slabs> <sharedavail>
> dentry_cache      434515 514112    136   29    1 : tunables  120   60    0 : slabdata  17728  17728      0
> ext3_inode_cache  587635 589992    464    8    1 : tunables   54   27    0 : slabdata  73748  73749      0
> 
> Leading to an impending shortage in low memory:
> 
> LowFree:          9268 kB

Do you have the /proc/sys/fs/dentry-state output when such lowmem
shortage happens ?

> 
> It turns out I can head off the system lockup by requesting the
> formation of hugepages, which will immediately cause a dramatic
> reduction of memory usage in both high- and low- memory as various
> caches and flushed:
> 
> 	echo 100 > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages
> 	echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages
> 
> The question is why isn't the kernel able to figure out how to do
> release dentry cache entries automatically when it starts thrashing due
> to a lack of low memory?   Clearly it can, since requesting hugepages
> does shrink the dentry cache:

This is a problem that Bharata has been investigating at the moment.
But he hasn't seen anything that can't be cured by a small memory
pressure - IOW, dentries do get freed under memory pressure. So
your case might be very useful. Bharata is maintaing an instrumentation
patch to collect more information and an alternative dentry aging patch 
(using rbtree). Perhaps you could try with those.

Thanks
Dipankar
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-11 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-11 10:57 Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-11 12:00 ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2005-09-12  3:16   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-12  6:16     ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-12 12:53       ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13  8:47     ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13 21:59       ` David Chinner
2005-09-14  9:01         ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-14  9:16           ` Manfred Spraul
2005-09-14  9:43             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14  9:52               ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-14 22:44               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-14  9:35           ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 13:57           ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-14 15:37             ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15  7:21             ` Helge Hafting
2005-09-14 22:48           ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 15:48         ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 22:02           ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 22:40             ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15  1:14               ` David Chinner
2005-10-06  6:27         ` [PATCH] dcache: separate slab for directory dentries David Chinner, gnb
2005-10-06 12:28           ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-10-07  3:54             ` Greg Banks
2005-10-07 13:00               ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-09-14 21:34       ` VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-14 21:43         ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-15  4:28         ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-14 23:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-15  9:39         ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-15 13:29           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-02 16:32             ` Bharata B Rao
2005-10-02 20:06               ` Marcelo
2005-10-04 13:36                 ` shrinkable cache statistics [was Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough] Bharata B Rao
2005-10-05 21:25                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-07  8:12                     ` Bharata B Rao

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