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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][patch 0/2] mm: remove PageReserved
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 09:06:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200508130906.44088.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200508130904.41438.phillips@arcor.de>

On Saturday, 13 of August 2005 01:04, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Saturday 13 August 2005 08:20, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Friday, 12 of August 2005 21:56, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > I still don't see why you can't lift your flags up into the VMA.  The
> > > rmap mechanism is there precisely to let you get from the physical page
> > > to the users and user data, including VMAs.
> >
> > I'm not sure if I understand the issue, but swsusp works on a different
> > level. It only needs to figure out which physical pages, as represented by
> > struct page objects, should be saved to swap before suspend.  We browse all
> > zones (once) and create a list of page frames that should be saved on the
> > basis of the contents of the struct page objects alone.  IMHO if we needed
> > to use any additional mechanisms here, it would be less efficient than just
> > checking the page flags.
> 
> Isn't that what hash tables are for?  It seems to me obvious that you don't 
> absolutely need to reserve page flag bits, but you think this is better, 
> maybe enough faster to make a perceptible difference.  How about testing with 
> a hash table?  If it dims the lights then you have all the argument you need.
> 
> Admittedly, page flags have not gotten really tight just yet, and this is 
> something you can change later if they do become tight.  But it would be very 
> nice to know just which of those page flags are really needed (like uptodate) 
> versus which are just there for convenience.  I think yours fall in the 
> latter category.

Well, I think we can do without PG_nosave in swsusp, although it would require
a considerable effort to remove it.

Greets,
Rafael


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-13  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-07  3:28 Nick Piggin
2005-08-07  3:29 ` [patch 1/2] mm: remap ZERO_PAGE mappings Nick Piggin
2005-08-07  3:30   ` [patch 2/2] mm: core remove PageReserved Nick Piggin
2005-08-08 21:09 ` [RFC][patch 0/2] mm: " Daniel Phillips
2005-08-08 21:24   ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-08 21:54     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-09 23:23       ` [RFC][PATCH] Rename PageChecked as PageMiscFS Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10  7:48         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-10  8:06           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 22:12       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 22:23         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 22:34           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-10 22:57             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 23:23               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-11  9:42               ` David Howells
2005-08-10 23:42           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-11  9:46           ` David Howells
2005-08-12  2:34             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 12:32             ` David Howells
2005-08-11  9:31         ` David Howells
2005-08-11  9:26       ` David Howells
2005-08-12  3:29         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 12:41         ` David Howells
2005-08-12 13:28           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-16 13:59           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-18 14:33           ` David Howells
2005-08-18 22:27             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-19 10:04             ` David Howells
2005-08-19 16:31               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-20 10:45               ` David Howells
2005-08-20 20:21                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 13:13     ` [RFC][patch 0/2] mm: remove PageReserved David Howells
2005-08-10 13:34       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 14:27       ` David Howells
2005-08-10 23:19         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-11 10:49         ` David Howells
2005-08-12 19:34           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-15 13:15           ` David Howells
2005-08-16  1:53             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-16 10:28             ` David Howells
2005-08-09  0:15   ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  8:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09  9:49       ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 19:19         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09 19:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 21:50           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 21:56             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-11 10:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-12 19:56                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 22:20                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-12 23:04                     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-13  7:06                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2005-08-11 10:26             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-09 11:25       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 14:31         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09 14:50           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 14:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09 15:36               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 21:27                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09 19:14     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09 20:17       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 20:52         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09  4:39   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-09  4:59     ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  5:11       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-09  5:20         ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  5:30           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-09  7:08       ` Russell King
2005-08-09  8:38         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-09  9:31           ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  9:49             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-09  9:57               ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 10:24             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-09  8:53         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09  9:15         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 10:27           ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 11:15             ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 13:15               ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 13:26                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-09 14:28               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09 14:47                 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 19:49           ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-09  9:29         ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 19:40           ` Russell King
2005-08-09 14:38         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-09 19:41           ` Russell King
2005-08-09 20:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-09 21:16             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-09 21:51               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-10  9:27             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-11  9:09               ` Nick Piggin

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