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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
	Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@osdl.org, lhms <lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fix SMP brokenness for PF_FREEZE and make freezing usable for other purposes
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:17:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050627131709.GA30467@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42BFA591.1070503@engr.sgi.com>

Hi!

> >CL> frozen(process)             Check for frozen process
> >CL> freezing(process)   Check if a process is being frozen
> >CL> freeze(process)             Tell a process to freeze (go to 
> >refrigerator)
> >CL> thaw_process(process)       Restart process
> >
> >CL> I only know that this boots correctly since I have no system that can 
> >do
> >CL> suspend. But Ray needs an effective means of process suspension for
> >CL> his process migration patches.
> 
> The process migration patches that Christoph mentions are avaialable at
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-mm&m=111945947315561&w=2
> 
> and subsequent notes to the -mm or lhms-devel lists.  The problem there is
> that this code depends on user space code to suspend and then resume the
> processes to be migrated before/after the migration.  Christoph suggested
> using PF_FREEZE, but I pointed out that was broken on SMP so hence the
> current patch.
> 
> The idea would be to use PF_FREEZE to cause the process suspension.
> A minor flaw in this approach is what happens if a process migration
> is in progress when the machine is suspended/resumed.  (Probably not
> a common occurrence on Altix... :-), but anyway...).  If the processes
> are PF_FROZEN by the migration code, then unfrozen by the resume code,
> and then the migration code continues, then we have unstopped processes
> being migratated again.  Not a good thing.  On the other hand, the

Should be very easy to solve with one semaphore. Simply make swsusp
wait until all migrations are done.  

> Is the above scenario even possible?  manual page migration runs as a system
> call.  Do system calls all complete before suspend starts?  If that is
> the case, then the above is not something to worry about.

Yes, are normal system calls complete before suspend starts -- but
that's what refrigerator cares about.

> Finally, how comfortable are people about using the PF_FREEZE stuff
> to start and resume processes for purposes unrelated to suspend/resume?

No problem with that...

BTW smp notebooks will come, sooner or later, and 2-core 2-way-HT
notebook is already NUMA system.
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-27 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-24 20:20 Christoph Lameter
2005-06-24 22:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-25  2:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-25  4:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-25  4:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-25 22:37     ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-25  6:13   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-26  2:30     ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-26  2:55       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-26  3:09         ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27  3:51           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27  4:21             ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27  4:24             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-27  5:53               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27 14:13                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27 15:13                   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28  6:18                     ` Kirill Korotaev
2005-06-28  7:01                       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28  7:30                         ` Kirill Korotaev
2005-06-28  8:13                           ` Kirill Korotaev
2005-06-28 14:02                             ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 14:01                           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 12:47                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-01 17:06                         ` [SUSPEND 1/2]Replace PF_FREEZE with TIF_FREEZE Christoph Lameter
2005-07-01 17:14                           ` [SUSPEND 2/2] Replace PF_FROZEN with TASK_FROZEN Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 21:50                 ` [RFC] Fix SMP brokenness for PF_FREEZE and make freezing usable for other purposes Ray Bryant
2005-06-28 21:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-03 11:06                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-26 10:54       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-25  6:18   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-25  7:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2005-06-27  7:06   ` Ray Bryant
2005-06-27 13:17     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-06-27 14:59       ` Ray Bryant
2005-06-27 18:05         ` Pavel Machek

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