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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
Cc: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com, raybry@engr.sgi.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: question on page-migration code
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:16:18 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050420181618.GB8871@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <426470EB.4090600@sgi.com>

Ray,

On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:46:03PM -0500, Ray Bryant wrote:
> Hirokazu et al,
> 
> I'm sorry, I've been kind of out of the loop here since last Wenesday
> (that's the day I left Austin to fly to Melbourne, Australia which is
> where I am now, visiting the SGI lab in Melbourne).
> 
> Nathan Scott (who works at SGI Melbourne) looked at the ext2/ext3
> migrate_page code and realized that basically the same implementation
> would work for xfs.  So I now have a kernel that implements that
> function for xfs and, as you predicted, the "slow down" in the 2nd
> migration that I was seeing before has gone away.  I'll add Nathan's
> patch to my manual page migration stuff in the next version (later
> this week, I hope).
> 
> So I guess it doesn't matter to me at the moment whether or not
> the PG_dirty bit is set on the pages, except that I philosphically
> dislike the fact that migration changes the state of the page.
> I'm not sure it matters, but I would prefer it if this didn't
> happen.  However, I'm not adamant about this, since what I really
> want to happen is to have a functioning manual page migration
> system call.  It does seem to be a bother to have to add that
> migrate_page method to each file system, since in most cases
> the addition is going to look somewhat like it does for ext2/3. 

One could create "block_migrate_page()" in fs/buffer.c so to void 
migrate_page definition on each filesystem which uses buffer_head's.

But all address_space_operations need to be updated anyway.

> For xfs, Nathan did add an additional bit to make sure that
> xfs metadata pages were not considered migratable.
> 
> WRT, Marcelo's question as to who is causing the page out I/O
> to occur during migration, let me go back and verify this is
> actually what is happening.
> 
> Otherwise, is there a consensus about what to do about the
> PG_dirty bits being set on the migrated pages?  As I read
> things Marcelo says it is not worth it, but others think
> that it should be fixed?

Dirty mmaped file pages will have their dirty tag migrated from  
ptes to pages via unmapping (try_to_unmap), which causes
pdflush to sync these pages when their inodes get aged, as 
Toshihiro notices.

I dislike the idea of "saving the dirty state to reinstantiate 
it later", but, it seems its the only way of avoiding the dirty 
mmaped file writeouts.
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-20 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-07 22:16 Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 18:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-11 14:20   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 18:31   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 23:41     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-12  4:57       ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-12  5:43       ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-13  2:30         ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-13  4:43         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-15  6:41         ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-15 12:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-18 10:37             ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-12 16:46       ` Dave Hansen
2005-04-13 10:48         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-14 15:57           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-19  2:46           ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-20 18:16             ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2005-04-12 19:29       ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 19:00   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 19:59   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 22:44 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 23:05 Ray Bryant

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