From: IWAMOTO Toshihiro <iwamoto@valinux.co.jp>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
haveblue@us.ibm.com, raybry@engr.sgi.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: question on page-migration code
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:41:38 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050415064138.4AD8E70471@sv1.valinux.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050414155734.GE14975@logos.cnet> <425B600E.6020701@engr.sgi.com>
At Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:57:34 -0300,
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:48:00PM +0900, Hirokazu Takahashi wrote:
> 2) PG_dirty bit set on anonymous pages which have been migrated.
>
> > ray> I guess it seems to me that if a page has pte dirty set, but doesn't have
> > ray> PG_dirty set, then that state should be carried over to the newpage after
> > ray> a migration, rather than sweeping the pte dirty bit into the PG_dirty bit.
>
> The dirty bit is set by swap allocation and freeing code.
>
> > The implementation might be as follows:
> > - to make try_to_unmap_one() record dirty bit in anywhere
> > instead of calling set_page_dirty().
> > - to make touch_unmapped_address() call get_user_pages() with
> > the record of the dirty bit.
>
> Quoting Ray:
> "Checking /proc/vmstat/pgpgout appears to indicate that the pages I am
> migrating are being swapped out when I see the migration slow down,
> although something is fishy with pgpgout."
>
> Anonymous pages seem to the problem Ray is seeing, except (1) which
> vanishes with ext2/ext3 as he reports.
I think Ray is using the word "swap" to mean "page out" and anonymous
pages are irrelevant here, judging from his another mail (quoted below).
At Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:43:42 -0500,
Ray Bryant wrote:
: BTW, the program that I am testing creates a relatively large mapped file,
: and, as you guessed, this file is backed by XFS. Programs that just use
: large amounts of anonymous storage are not effected by this problem, I
: would imagine.
> One point is that if free memory is below the safe watermarks, the
> system will vmscan, allocating swap & writing out, which is expected.
If there are enough RAM, mmaped dirty pages shouldn't be written back.
However, memory migration triggers writebacks.
> > However, we have to remember that there must exit some race conditions.
> > For example, it may fail to restore the dirty bit since the process
> > address spaces might be deleted during the memory migration.
> > This may occur as the process isn't suspended during the migration.
>
> The PG_dirty bit is set, by the migration code, for anonymous pages only.
If a file page is mmaped and its PTE is dirty, the page gets PG_dirty
bit when it is unmapped.
> That said, I see no need to reset PG_dirty in case it was not set before
> migration, as you propose.
I think PG_dirty should be reset, as the side effect is probably
unacceptable for Ray's application. It would be a bit more
complicated than just changing page and PTE bits, but I think it's
doable.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-15 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-07 22:16 Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 18:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-11 14:20 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 18:31 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 23:41 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-12 4:57 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-12 5:43 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-13 2:30 ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-13 4:43 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-15 6:41 ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro [this message]
2005-04-15 12:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-18 10:37 ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-12 16:46 ` Dave Hansen
2005-04-13 10:48 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-14 15:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-19 2:46 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-20 18:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-12 19:29 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 19:00 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 19:59 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 22:44 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 23:05 Ray Bryant
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