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From: IWAMOTO Toshihiro <iwamoto@valinux.co.jp>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com, raybry@engr.sgi.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: question on page-migration code
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:41:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050415064138.4AD8E70471@sv1.valinux.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050414155734.GE14975@logos.cnet> <425B600E.6020701@engr.sgi.com>

At Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:57:34 -0300,
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:48:00PM +0900, Hirokazu Takahashi wrote:

> 2) PG_dirty bit set on anonymous pages which have been migrated.
> 
> > ray> I guess it seems to me that if a page has pte dirty set, but doesn't have
> > ray> PG_dirty set, then that state should be carried over to the newpage after
> > ray> a migration, rather than sweeping the pte dirty bit into the PG_dirty bit.
> 
> The dirty bit is set by swap allocation and freeing code. 
> 
> > The implementation might be as follows:
> >    - to make try_to_unmap_one() record dirty bit in anywhere
> >      instead of calling set_page_dirty().
> >    - to make touch_unmapped_address() call get_user_pages() with
> >      the record of the dirty bit.
> 
> Quoting Ray:
> "Checking /proc/vmstat/pgpgout appears to indicate that the pages I am
> migrating are being swapped out when I see the migration slow down,
> although something is fishy with pgpgout."
> 
> Anonymous pages seem to the problem Ray is seeing, except (1) which 
> vanishes with ext2/ext3 as he reports.

I think Ray is using the word "swap" to mean "page out" and anonymous
pages are irrelevant here, judging from his another mail (quoted below).

At Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:43:42 -0500,
Ray Bryant wrote:
: BTW, the program that I am testing creates a relatively large mapped file,
: and, as you guessed, this file is backed by XFS.  Programs that just use
: large amounts of anonymous storage are not effected by this problem, I
: would imagine.

> One point is that if free memory is below the safe watermarks, the
> system will vmscan, allocating swap & writing out, which is expected.

If there are enough RAM, mmaped dirty pages shouldn't be written back.
However, memory migration triggers writebacks.

> > However, we have to remember that there must exit some race conditions.
> > For example, it may fail to restore the dirty bit since the process
> > address spaces might be deleted during the memory migration.
> > This may occur as the process isn't suspended during the migration.
> 
> The PG_dirty bit is set, by the migration code, for anonymous pages only.

If a file page is mmaped and its PTE is dirty, the page gets PG_dirty
bit when it is unmapped.

> That said, I see no need to reset PG_dirty in case it was not set before
> migration, as you propose.

I think PG_dirty should be reset, as the side effect is probably
unacceptable for Ray's application.  It would be a bit more
complicated than just changing page and PTE bits, but I think it's
doable.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-15  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-07 22:16 Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 18:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-11 14:20   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 18:31   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 23:41     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-12  4:57       ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-12  5:43       ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-13  2:30         ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-13  4:43         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-15  6:41         ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro [this message]
2005-04-15 12:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-18 10:37             ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-04-12 16:46       ` Dave Hansen
2005-04-13 10:48         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-04-14 15:57           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-19  2:46           ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-20 18:16             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-04-12 19:29       ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 19:00   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-11 19:59   ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 22:44 ` Ray Bryant
2005-04-07 23:05 Ray Bryant

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