From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
pmarques@grupopie.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] per thread page reservation patch
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:35:51 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050109113551.GB9144@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050107154305.790b8a51.akpm@osdl.org>
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:43:05PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Why does the filesystem risk going oom during the rebalance anyway? Is it
> > > doing atomic allocations?
> >
> > No, just __alloc_pages(GFP_KERNEL, 0, ...) returns NULL. When this
> > happens, the only thing balancing can do is to panic.
>
> __alloc_pages(GFP_KERNEL, ...) doesn't return NULL. It'll either succeed
> or never return ;) That behaviour may change at any time of course, but it
> does make me wonder why we're bothering with this at all. Maybe it's
> because of the possibility of a GFP_IO failure under your feet or
> something?
>
> What happens if reiser4 simply doesn't use this code?
>
>
> If we introduce this mechanism, people will end up using it all over the
> place. Probably we could remove radix_tree_preload(), which is the only
> similar code I can I can immediately think of.
>
> Page reservation is not a bad thing per-se, but it does need serious
> thought.
Whenever scheme comes up I dont think the current check in __alloc_pages() is
any good:
if (order == 0) {
page = perthread_pages_alloc();
if (page != NULL)
return page;
}
Two things:
- all instances of an allocator from the current thread will eat from the perthread
reserves, you probably want only a few special allocations to eat from the reserves?
Thing is its not really a reservation intended for emergency situations,
rather a "generic per-thread pool" the way things are now.
- its a real fast path, we're adding quite some instructions there which are only
used by reiserfs now.
I think in a "final" implementation emergency allocations should be explicitly stated
as such by the callers ?
> How does reiser4 end up deciding how many pages to reserve? Gross
> overkill?
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <20050103114854.GA18408@infradead.org>
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[not found] ` <20050107144644.GA9606@infradead.org>
2005-01-07 17:16 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-01-07 18:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-07 20:21 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 19:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:21 ` Robert Love
2005-01-07 20:48 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 20:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 21:00 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 21:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:14 ` Paulo Marques
2005-01-07 19:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 19:42 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-07 20:55 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-07 21:24 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-07 22:12 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 23:03 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-07 23:17 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-07 23:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-08 12:44 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-08 13:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-09 11:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2005-01-09 18:16 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-25 16:39 ` reiser4 core patches: [Was: [RFC] per thread page reservation patch] Vladimir Saveliev
2005-01-27 10:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-27 11:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
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