From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, piggin@cyberone.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kswapd shall not sleep during page shortage
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:08:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041110140840.7e1769c9.akpm@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041110181450.GB12867@logos.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 04:28:01PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Back to arguing in favour of my patch - it seemed to me that kswapd could
> > > go to sleep leaving allocators which can't reclaim pages themselves in a
> > > bad situation.
> >
> > Yes, but those processes would be sleeping in blk_congestion_wait() during,
> > say, a GFP_NOIO/GFP_NOFS allocation attempt. And in that case, they may be
> > holding locks whcih prevent kswapd from being able to do any work either.
> >
> > > It would have to be waken up by another instance of alloc_pages to then
> > > execute and start doing its job, while if it was executing already (madly
> > > scanning as you say), the chance it would find freeable pages quite
> > > earlier.
> > >
> > > Note that not only disk IO can cause pages to become freeable. A user
> > > can give up its reference on pagecache page for example (leaving
> > > the page on LRU to be found and freed by kswapd).
> >
> > yup. Or munlock(), or direct-io completion.
>
> Andrew,
>
> Shouldnt the kernel ideally clear zone->all_unreclaimable in those
> situations? (munlock, direct-io completion, last reference on pagecache
> page, etc).
The design intent here is that a zone shouldn't enter the all-unreclaimable
state until we've absolutely scanned the crap out of it. So we assume that
once a zone is all-unreclaimable then it will stay that way for a
relatively long time. We do little, short scans just to poll the status of
the zone. If one of those short scans ends up freeing a page then the zone
is removed from the all_unreclaimable state.
So if someone does one of the above things then we hope that a subsequent
short-scan will free a page and will wake the zone up. This has the obvious
drawback that it might take us a number of scanning passes before we
discover a reclaimable page. 1<<DEF_PRIORITY passes, worst-case.
For munlock we'd need to actually examine the zone of each affected page,
which is a bunch of new code - a full pte walk. We don't want munlocks of
ZONE_HIGHMEM to trigger these huge scans of a lower zone.
We could possibly put special-case code in the direct-io completion
handler, but it's all a bit weird.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-10 22:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-09 16:46 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 20:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 17:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 18:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 20:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10 0:28 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 23:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 23:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10 2:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10 18:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10 22:08 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-11-10 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 2:56 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10 3:12 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 3:18 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10 3:27 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 4:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 8:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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