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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, piggin@cyberone.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kswapd shall not sleep during page shortage
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:16:54 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041109231654.GE8414@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041109162801.7f7ca242.akpm@osdl.org>

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 04:28:01PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com> wrote:
> >
> > Back to arguing in favour of my patch - it seemed to me that kswapd could 
> >  go to sleep leaving allocators which can't reclaim pages themselves in a 
> >  bad situation. 
> 
> Yes, but those processes would be sleeping in blk_congestion_wait() during,
> say, a GFP_NOIO/GFP_NOFS allocation attempt. 

I was thinking about interrupts when I mentioned "allocators which can't reclaim 
pages" :)

> And in that case, they may be
> holding locks whcih prevent kswapd from being able to do any work either.

OK... Just out of curiosity:
Isnt the "lock contention" at this level (filesystem) a relatively rare situation? 

It could be a NFS lock for example? What other kind of lock?

> >  It would have to be waken up by another instance of alloc_pages to then 
> >  execute and start doing its job, while if it was executing already (madly 
> >  scanning as you say), the chance it would find freeable pages quite
> >  earlier.
> > 
> >  Note that not only disk IO can cause pages to become freeable. A user
> >  can give up its reference on pagecache page for example (leaving
> >  the page on LRU to be found and freed by kswapd).
> 
> yup.  Or munlock(), or direct-io completion. 
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-09 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-09 16:46 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 20:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 17:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 21:33     ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 18:26       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 22:22         ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 20:31           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10  0:28             ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 23:16               ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-11-09 23:34                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10  2:53                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10 18:14               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10 22:08                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10  0:56           ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  2:49             ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  2:56               ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10  3:12                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  3:18                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10  3:27                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  4:15                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  8:17                       ` Marcelo Tosatti

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