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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 02:20:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041106012018.GT8229@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200411051532.51150.jbarnes@sgi.com>

On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 03:32:50PM -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Friday, November 05, 2004 12:01 pm, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > In my opinion the correct approach is to trigger the OOM killer
> > when kswapd is unable to free pages. Once that is done, the number
> > of tasks inside page reclaim is irrelevant.
> 
> That makes sense.

I don't like it, kswapd may fail balancing because there's a GFP_DMA
allocation that eat the last dma page, but we should not kill tasks if
we fail to balance in kswapd, we should kill tasks only when no fail
path exists (i.e. only during page faults, everything else in the kernel
has a fail path and it should never trigger oom).

If you move it in kswapd there's no way to prevent oom-killing from a
syscall allocation (I guess even right now it would go wrong in this
sense, but at least right now it's more fixable). I want to move the oom
kill outside the alloc_page paths. The oom killing is all about the page
faults not having a fail path, and in turn the oom killing should be
moved in the page fault code, not in the allocator. Everything else
should keep returning -ENOMEM to the caller.

So to me moving the oom killer into kswapd looks a regression.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-06  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-05 20:01 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-05 23:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-05 23:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06  1:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-11-06  1:26     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06  1:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-06  1:50       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  9:47         ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 10:53           ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 15:29             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:29           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:21             ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-10  6:02               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-06 11:37         ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 15:32           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:54             ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 17:44               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 19:24                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-07  1:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 10:11       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06  1:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 10:28       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-17 22:54       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-17 23:27         ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  0:04           ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  0:28             ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  1:14               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  8:20                 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 10:01                   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 14:44                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-18 15:10                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-06 10:05     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 15:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:52         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-06 17:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07  0:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07 11:21             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 12:53 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 10:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07  9:26   ` Marko Macek
2004-11-08 16:27 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti

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