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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	piggin@cyberone.com.au, Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] memory defragmentation to satisfy high order allocations
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:42:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041001234200.GA4635@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1096667823.3684.1299.camel@localhost>

On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:57:03PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 12:04, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 01:11:47PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Presumably this duplicates some of the memory hot-remove patches.
> > 
> > As far as I have researched, the memory moving/remapping code 
> > on the hot remove patches dont work correctly. Please correct me.
> 
> I definitely see some commonality, but Marcelo's approach has handling
> for the different kinds of pages broken out much more nicely.  Can't
> tell yet if this produces extra code, or is just plain better.  
> 
> We worked pretty hard to try and copy as little code as possible.  Was
> there any reason that there was so much stuff copied out of rmap.c? 
> Just for proof-of-concept?

Just proof of concept really, to have an equivalent of "try_to_unmap()" - 
which you call from the migrate page code. 

Just that "try_to_remap_{file,anon}" do the pte clearing + remapping in
one function.

> Here's one of the recent patch sets that we're working on:
> 
> http://sprucegoose.sr71.net/patches/2.6.9-rc2-mm4-mhp-test2/
> 
> In that directory, the K* patches hijack some of the swap code (but
> require memory pressure to work last time I tried), and the p000*
> patches (by Hirokazu Takahashi) actively migrate pages around.  Both
> approaches work, but the K* one is smaller and less intrusive, while the
> p000* one is much more complete.  They may end up being able to coexist
> in the end.  

The page migration code (p000*) looks nice - quite complete indeed (nice error
handling, etc) but somewhat specific to the migration procedure, which is more 
critical (cannot fail so easily as) then the remapping for high-order allocations.

For example this in migrate_page_common


+		switch (ret) {
+		case 0:
+		case -ENOENT:
+			copy_highpage(newpage, page);
+			return ret;
+		case -EBUSY:
+			return ret;
+		case -EAGAIN:
+			writeback_and_free_buffers(page);
+			unlock_page(page);
+			msleep(10);
+			timeout -= 10;
+			lock_page(page);
+			continue;

Which retries undefinately to migrate the page

For the "defragmentation" operation we want to do an "easy" try - ie if we
can't remap giveup.

I feel we should try to "untie" the code which checks for remapping availability / 
does the remapping from the page migration - so to be able to share the most 
code between it and other users of the same functionality. 

Curiosity: How did you guys test the migration operation? Several threads on 
several processors operating on the memory, etc? 

> I don't work for Fujitsu :)  Please take a look at the patches in the
> above directory and see what you think.  I'm sure you have some very
> good stuff in your patch, but I need to take a closer look.
> 
> I'm just about to head out of town for the weekend, but I'll take a much
> more detailed look on Monday.  

Cool. I'll take a closer look at the relevant parts of memory hotplug patches 
this weekend, hopefully. See if I can help with testing of these patches too.

Andrew, what are your thoughts wrt merging this to mainline?

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-01 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 18:22 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-01 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-01 19:04   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-01 21:00     ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-01 21:57     ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-01 23:42       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-10-02  1:17         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-02  9:30         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-02 18:33           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-03  4:13             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-03 14:07               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-03 18:35                 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-03 19:21                   ` Trond Myklebust
2004-10-03 20:03                     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-03 20:44                       ` Trond Myklebust
2004-10-04 13:02                         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-04 17:24                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-05  2:53                     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-07 12:06                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-08  7:00                         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-08 10:00                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-08 12:23                             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-08 12:41                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-08 16:52                                 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-08 15:36                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-12 10:56                                     ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2004-10-12 10:35                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-12 17:55                                         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-12 14:26                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-12 12:17                                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-12 15:01                                         ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-04  3:24                 ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2004-10-04  2:22               ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-05 16:46               ` [PATCH] mhp: transfer dirty tag at radix_tree_replace Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-05 18:35                 ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-06  7:39                 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-08  8:15                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-08 20:36                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-04  4:09             ` [RFC] memory defragmentation to satisfy high order allocations IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2004-10-04 17:29               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-02  2:30 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-02  3:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-04  8:15     ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-02  2:41 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-02  3:50   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-10-02 16:06   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-04  2:38 ` Hiroyuki KAMEZAWA
2004-10-04 17:32   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-04  6:58 ` Hiroyuki KAMEZAWA
2004-10-07 15:58   ` memory hotplug and mem= Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07 18:36     ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-07 17:01       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07 19:10         ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-07 20:25         ` Dave Hansen
2004-10-11 16:40 [RFC] memory defragmentation to satisfy high order allocations linux

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