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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:48:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040906224830.GI3106@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <413CB661.6030303@sgi.com>

On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 02:11:29PM -0500, Ray Bryant wrote:
> What is unexpected is that the amount of swap space used at a particular
> swappiness setting varies dramatically with the kernel version being 
> tested, in spite of the fact that the basic swap_tendency calculation in 
> refile_ianctive_zone() is unchanged.  (Other, subtle changes in the vm as a 
> whole and this routine in particular clearly effect the impact of that 
> computation.)
> For example, at a swappiness value of 0, Kernel 2.6.5 swapped out 0 bytes,
> whereas Kernel 2.6.9-rc1-mm3 swapped out 10 GB.  Similarly, most kernels
> have a significant change in behavior for swappiness values near 100, but
> for SLES9 the change point occurs at swappness=60.
> A scan of the change logs for swappiness related changes shows nothing that 
> might explain these changes.  My question is:  "Is this change in behavior
> deliberate, or just a side effect of other changes that were made in the 
> vm?" and "What kind of swappiness behavior might I expect to find in future 
> kernels?".

IIRC no deliberate /proc/sys/vm/swappiness semantic changes were merged.
The policy tweakers have something to answer for here unless some stats
they rely upon have since been flubbed. Logging periodic snapshots of
/proc/vmstat for these benchmarks may be helpful to implicate specific
statistics' bungling or rule out statistic miscalculation as causes.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-06 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-06 19:11 Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 21:22   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 21:36     ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 22:37     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:51       ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07  0:31         ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 22:48 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-09-06 23:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:27   ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 23:34     ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07  0:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07  1:34         ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 10:38         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 10:56           ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-08 16:45             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  1:12               ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 17:03           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07 21:20         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08  2:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 14:20           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 16:54             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 19:35               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:30                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  3:06                   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  2:14                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 14:21                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  3:09                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 14:16                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 17:23                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-28  1:54                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-28  3:36                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  0:36                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  4:23                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-30 17:15                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 17:31             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 18:04               ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 19:50                 ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 21:10                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 21:55                     ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 22:20                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 23:22                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 22:28                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-08 23:42                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 19:54               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 15:19           ` Ray Bryant

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