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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Karl Vogel <karl.vogel@pandora.be>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.8.1: swap storm of death - nr_requests > 1024 on swap partition
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:43:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040828144303.0ae2bebe.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4130F55A.90705@pandora.be>

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Karl Vogel <karl.vogel@pandora.be> wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Karl Vogel <karl.vogel@seagha.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>Further testing shows that all the schedulers exhibit this exact same
> >> problem when run with a nr_requests size of 8192 on the drive hosting 
> >> the swap partition.
> >>
> >> I tried noop, deadline, as and CFQ with:
> >>
> >> 	echo 8192 >/sys/block/hda/queue/nr_requests
> > 
> > 
> > That allows up to 2GB of memory to be under writeout at the same time.  The
> > VM cannot touch any of that memory.
> 
> Well I used that value as it is the default for CFQ.. and it was with 
> CFQ that I had the problems. The patch Jens offered to track down the 
> problem, commented out this 'q->nr_requests = 8192' in CFQ and it 
> helped. Therefor I tried the other schedulers with this value to see if 
> it made a difference.
> 
> So if I understand you correctly, CFQ shouldn't be using 8192 on 512Mb 
> systems?!

Yup.  It's asking for trouble to allow that much memory to be unreclaimably
pinned.

Of course, you could have the same problem with just 128 requests per
queue, and lots of queues.  I solved all these problems in the dirty memory
writeback paths.  But I forgot about swapout!

> With overcommit_memory set to 1, the program can be run again after the 
> OOM kill.. but the OOM killing remains.
> 
> With overcommit_memory set to 0 a second run fails. I 'think' it's 
> because somehow SwapCache is 500Kb after the OOM, so in effect my system 
> doesn't have 1Gb to spare anymore. Doing swapoff/swapon frees this and 
> then I can do the calloc(1Gb) again.
> 
> Another way to free the SwapCached is to generate lots of I/O doing 'dd 
> if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null' ... after a while SwapCached is < 1Mb again.
> 

urgh.  It sounds like the overcommit logic forgot to account swapcache as
reclaimable.  It's been a ton of trouble, that code.

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       reply	other threads:[~2004-08-28 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-08-28 21:43               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-08-28 21:54                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28 22:13                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-28 22:28                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 10:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-29 14:15                         ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-29 14:17                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-29 14:45                             ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-29 20:18                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-29 20:30                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-29 20:59                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-29 22:17                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 22:28                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-30  7:41                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-08-30 15:20                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-30 18:01                                     ` Karl Vogel
2004-08-30 17:16                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-30 22:59                                         ` Karl Vogel
2004-08-30 20:33                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-30 22:37                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-30 22:17                                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-30 23:51                                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-31 10:23                                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-31 16:02                                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-31 17:50                                                 ` Karl Vogel
2004-08-31 16:52                                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-31 18:24                                                     ` Karl Vogel
2004-08-31 17:25                                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-31 19:36                                                         ` Karl Vogel
2004-09-02  9:05                                                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-30 23:02                                         ` Karl Vogel
2004-08-29 16:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-29 17:52                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28 21:59                 ` Karl Vogel
2004-08-29 16:53                 ` Jens Axboe

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