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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: paulmck@us.ibm.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:28:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040218162858.2a230401.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040218230055.A14889@infradead.org>

Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> Yes.  Andrew, please read the GPL, it's very clear about derived works.
> Then please tell me why you think gpfs is not a derived work.

OK, so I looked at the wrapper.  It wasn't a tremendously pleasant
experience.  It is huge, and uses fairly standard-looking filesytem
interfaces and locking primitives.  Also some awareness of NFSV4 for some
reason.

Still, the wrapper is GPL so this is not relevant.  Its only use is to tell
us whether or not the non-GPL bits are "derived" from Linux, and it
doesn't do that.

The GPL doesn't define a derived work.  It says

  "If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the
   Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works
   in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those
   sections when you distribute them as separate works.  But when you
   distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on
   the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this
   License, ..."

And the "But when you distribute..." part is what the Linus doctrine rubs
out.  Because it is unreasonable to say that a large piece of work such as
this is "derived" from Linux.

Why do you believe that GPFS represents a kernel licensing violation?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-19  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-16 19:09 Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-17  2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-17  7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 12:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18  0:19     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 12:51       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-18 14:00         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 21:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 15:06             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 22:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 22:51                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 23:00                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 16:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 23:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 12:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 18:56                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 19:01                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 13:04                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  3:17                             ` Anton Blanchard
2004-02-20 21:46                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-19  0:28                     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-02-18 18:36                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 12:31                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19  9:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 18:32                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19 18:38                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 19:16                             ` viro
2004-02-19 16:15                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 18:59                         ` Tim Bird
2004-02-20  1:27                       ` David Schwartz
2004-02-19  9:11                   ` David Weinehall
2004-02-19  8:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-04  5:51                       ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-19 10:29                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19  9:00                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 11:11                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 11:53                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-18 18:04         ` Tim Bird
2004-02-19 20:56       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 22:06         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-02-19 22:31           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 16:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  2:06               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 19:47                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  5:07                   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 12:02                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 20:37                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 14:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 23:00                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 16:17                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-21  3:19                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-21 19:00                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-22 23:39                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 21:04                                   ` [RFC] Distributed mmap API Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 19:12                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 19:14                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 22:07                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:07                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 22:16                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:46                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:00                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:15                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-03 13:06                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-04 18:55                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 21:17                         ` Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-20 22:16                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-18 12:12     ` Dominik Kubla
2004-02-17 22:22 ` David Weinehall

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