From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What to expect with the 2.6 VM
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:53:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030703185341.GJ20413@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307030904260.16582-100000@chimarrao.boston.redhat.com>
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>> even if you don't use largepages as you should, the ram cost of the pte
>> is nothing on 64bit archs, all you care about is to use all the mhz and
>> tlb entries of the cpu.
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:06:32AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> That depends on the number of Oracle processes you have.
> Say that page tables need 0.1% of the space of the virtual
> space they map. With 1000 Oracle users you'd end up needing
> as much memory in page tables as your shm segment is large.
> Of course, in this situation either the application should
> use large pages or the kernel should simply reclaim the
> page tables (possible while holding the mmap_sem for write).
No, it is not true that pagetable space can be wantonly wasted
on 64-bit.
Try mmap()'ing something sufficiently huge and accessing on average
every PAGE_SIZE'th virtual page, in a single-threaded single process.
e.g. various indexing schemes might do this. This is 1 pagetable page
per page of data (worse if shared), which blows major goats.
There's a reason why those things use inverted pagetables... at any
rate, compacting virtualspace with remap_file_pages() solves it too.
Large pages won't help, since the data isn't contiguous.
-- wli
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-01 1:39 Mel Gorman
2003-06-30 17:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-01 20:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:41 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 21:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-01 21:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 9:01 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 2:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-01 3:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:29 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-01 4:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 11:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-07-01 3:25 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 4:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 6:33 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 7:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 8:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 9:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 16:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 17:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 3:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 14:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:45 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:46 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-02 3:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 15:57 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-02 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 17:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 17:52 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 18:05 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-02 20:05 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 21:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 21:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 22:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 22:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 22:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 23:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 23:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 11:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 12:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 13:06 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-03 13:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 18:53 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-07-03 19:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 19:32 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-03 20:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 1:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 2:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 4:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 5:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 8:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-05 0:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 0:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-03 18:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 22:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 0:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 1:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-04 1:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-03 19:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 18:07 ` Rik van Riel
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