From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: rohit.seth@intel.com, davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com, anton@samba.org,
wli@holomorphy.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: hugepage patches
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:36:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030131153626.403ae2e1.akpm@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030131.151310.25151725.davem@redhat.com>
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Remind me why we can't just look at the PTE?
Diktat ;)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> wrote:
>
> ...
> Your big-page approach makes the assumption that I refuse to make - namely
> that the "big page" is somehow attached to the page tables, and to the pmd
> in particular.
>
> On many architectures, big pages are totally independent of the smaller
> pages, and don't necessarily have any of the x86 aligment/size
> restrictions.
>
> While on an x86, a big page is always the size of a PMD, on a ppc it can
> be any power-of-two size and alignment from 128kB to 256MB. And fixing
> that to a pmd boundary just doesn't work. They have other restrictions
> instead: they are mapped by the "BAT array", and there are 8 of those (and
> I think Linux/PPC uses a few of them for the kernel itself).
>
> So a portable big-page approach must _not_ tie the big pages to the page
> tables. I don't like big pages particularly, but if I add big page support
> to the kernel I want to at least do it in such a way that other people
> than just Intel can use it.
>
> Portability means that
> - the architecture must be able to set its large pages totally
> independently of the page tables.
> - the architecture may have other non-size-related limits on the large
> page areas, like "only 6 large page areas can be allocated per VM"
>
> and quite frankly, anything that goes in and mucks with the VM deeply is
> bound to fail, I think. The patch that Intel made (with some input from
> me) and which I attached to the previous email does this, and has almost
> zero impact on the "normal" MM code.
>
> Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-31 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-31 23:15 Andrew Morton
2003-01-31 23:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-01-31 23:36 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2003-01-31 23:23 ` David S. Miller
2003-01-31 23:45 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-31 23:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-01-31 23:16 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-31 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-31 23:18 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-31 23:18 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-01 8:58 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-02-01 9:31 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-01 10:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-01 10:14 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:55 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:55 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 19:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-02 20:49 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-03 15:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-03 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-04 5:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-04 5:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-04 7:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-04 7:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04 12:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-04 15:55 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-05 12:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-04 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-05 12:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-02-05 19:57 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-05 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:55 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:56 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 20:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-02 10:56 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:56 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:57 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 10:57 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-02 20:17 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-02 10:57 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-07 21:49 Seth, Rohit
2003-02-07 22:00 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-07 22:02 Seth, Rohit
2003-02-07 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-08 1:47 Seth, Rohit
2003-02-08 2:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-08 3:05 Seth, Rohit
2003-02-08 8:48 ` Andrew Morton
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