From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@alex.org.uk, Alex Tomas <bzzz@tmi.comex.ru>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.59-mm5
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:02:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301242202.h0OM2m0V007374@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:04:34 +0100." <20030124200434.GD889@suse.de>
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:04:34 +0100, Jens Axboe said:
> Nicks comment refers to the block layer situation, we obviously cannot
> merge reads and writes there. You would basically have to rewrite the
> entire request submission structure and break all drivers. And for zero
> benefit. Face it, it would be stupid to even attempt such a manuever.
As I *said* - "hairy beyond benefit", not "cant".
> Since you bring it up, you must know if a device which can take a single
> command that says "read blocks a to b, and write blocks x to z"? Even
> such thing existed,
They do exist.
IBM mainframe disks (the 3330/50/80 series) are able to do much more than that
in one CCW chain So it was *quite* possible to even express things like "Go to
this cylinder/track, search for each record that has value XYZ in the 'key'
field, and if found, write value ABC in the data field". (In fact, the DASD I/O
opcodes for CCW chains are Turing-complete).
> it would be much better implemented by the driver
> as pulling more requests of the queue and constructing these weirdo
The only operating system I'm aware of that actually uses that stuff is MVS.
> So I quite agree with the "obviously".
My complaint was the confusion of "obviously cant" with "we have decided we
don't want to".
/Valdis
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-24 22:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-24 3:50 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-24 11:03 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-01-24 11:16 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-24 11:23 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Alex Tomas
2003-01-24 11:50 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-24 12:05 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Alex Tomas
2003-01-24 19:12 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-24 19:58 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Alex Tomas
2003-01-25 17:32 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Ed Tomlinson
2003-01-25 17:41 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-25 20:34 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Ed Tomlinson
2003-01-25 22:33 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-26 1:43 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Ed Tomlinson
2003-01-26 2:17 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-26 3:51 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Ed Tomlinson
2003-01-26 4:04 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andrew Morton
2003-01-24 15:56 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-24 16:04 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Nick Piggin
2003-01-24 17:09 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Giuliano Pochini
2003-01-24 17:22 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Nick Piggin
2003-01-24 19:34 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-24 20:04 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Jens Axboe
2003-01-24 22:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2003-01-25 12:28 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Jens Axboe
2003-01-24 12:14 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Nikita Danilov
2003-01-24 16:00 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Nick Piggin
2003-01-24 11:23 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Jens Axboe
2003-01-24 13:59 ` 2.5.59-mm5 got stuck during boot Helge Hafting
2003-01-24 17:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-01-24 17:56 ` Nick Piggin
2003-01-24 19:18 ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-01-25 8:33 ` 2.5.59-mm5 Andres Salomon
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