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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: page_add/remove_rmap costs
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:08:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020725030834.GC2907@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D3F0ACE.D4195BF@zip.com.au>

On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:15:10PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> So.. who's going to do it?
> It's early days yet - although this looks bad on benchmarks we really
> need a better understanding of _why_ it's so bad, and of whether it
> really matters for real workloads.
> For example: given that copy_page_range performs atomic ops against
> page->count, how come page_add_rmap()'s atomic op against page->flags
> is more of a problem?

Hmm. It probably isn't harming more than benchmarks, but the loop is
pure bloat on UP. #ifdef that out someday. (Heck, don't even touch the
bit for UP except for debugging.)

Hypothesis:
There are too many cachelines to gain exclusive ownership of. It's not
the aggregate arrival rate, it's the aggregate cacheline-claiming
bandwidth needed to get exclusive ownership of all the pages' ->flags.

Experiment 1:
Group pages into blocks of say 2 or 4 for locality, and then hash each
pageblock to a lock. The worst case wrt. claiming cachelines is then
the size of the hash table divided by the size of the lock, but the
potential for cacheline contention exists.

Experiment 2:
Move ->flags to be adjacent to ->count and align struct page to a
divisor of the cacheline size or play tricks to get it down to 32B. =)

Experiment 3:
Compare magic oprofile perfcounter stuff between 2.5.26 and 2.5.27
and do divination based on whatever the cache counters say.


Cheers,
Bill
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-25  3:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-24  6:33 Andrew Morton
2002-07-24  6:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-24 16:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-24 20:15   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-24 20:21     ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-24 20:28       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25  2:35         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25  3:08     ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2002-07-25  3:14       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-25  4:21       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25  2:45   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25  4:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25  5:14   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25  5:15     ` John Levon
2002-07-25  5:30       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25  5:47       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25  5:42         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25  5:59           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25  7:09   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-26  7:33 ` Daniel Phillips

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