From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: page_add/remove_rmap costs
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:08:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020725030834.GC2907@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D3F0ACE.D4195BF@zip.com.au>
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:15:10PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> So.. who's going to do it?
> It's early days yet - although this looks bad on benchmarks we really
> need a better understanding of _why_ it's so bad, and of whether it
> really matters for real workloads.
> For example: given that copy_page_range performs atomic ops against
> page->count, how come page_add_rmap()'s atomic op against page->flags
> is more of a problem?
Hmm. It probably isn't harming more than benchmarks, but the loop is
pure bloat on UP. #ifdef that out someday. (Heck, don't even touch the
bit for UP except for debugging.)
Hypothesis:
There are too many cachelines to gain exclusive ownership of. It's not
the aggregate arrival rate, it's the aggregate cacheline-claiming
bandwidth needed to get exclusive ownership of all the pages' ->flags.
Experiment 1:
Group pages into blocks of say 2 or 4 for locality, and then hash each
pageblock to a lock. The worst case wrt. claiming cachelines is then
the size of the hash table divided by the size of the lock, but the
potential for cacheline contention exists.
Experiment 2:
Move ->flags to be adjacent to ->count and align struct page to a
divisor of the cacheline size or play tricks to get it down to 32B. =)
Experiment 3:
Compare magic oprofile perfcounter stuff between 2.5.26 and 2.5.27
and do divination based on whatever the cache counters say.
Cheers,
Bill
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-25 3:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-24 6:33 Andrew Morton
2002-07-24 6:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-24 16:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-24 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-24 20:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-24 20:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 2:35 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25 3:08 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2002-07-25 3:14 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-25 4:21 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 2:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 4:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 5:14 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 5:15 ` John Levon
2002-07-25 5:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 5:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 5:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 7:09 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-26 7:33 ` Daniel Phillips
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