From: John Levon <movement@marcelothewonderpenguin.com>
To: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Richard Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
bob <bob@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:22:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020710022208.GA56823@compsoc.man.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D29DCBC.5ADB7BE8@opersys.com>
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:41:00PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote:
> dentry + offset: on a 32bit machine, this is 8 bytes total per event being
> profiled. This is a lot of information if you are trying you have a high
> volume throughput.
I haven't found that to be significant in profiling overhead, mainly
because the hash table removes some of the "sting" of high sampling
rates (and the interrupt handler dwarfs all other aspects). The
situation is probably different for more general tracing purposes, but
I'm dubious as to the utility of a general tracing mechanism.
(besides, a profile buffer needs a sample context value too, for things
like CPU number and perfctr event number).
> You can almost always skip the dentry since you know scheduling
> changes and since you can catch a system-state snapshot at the begining of
> the profiling. After that, the eip is sufficient and can easily be correlated
> to a meaningfull entry in a file in user-space.
But as I point out in my other post, dentry-offset alone is not as
useful as it could be...
I just don't see a really good reason to introduce insidious tracing
throughout. Both tracing and profiling are ugly ugly things to be doing
by their very nature, and I'd much prefer to keep such intrusions to a
bare minimum.
The entry.S examine-the-registers approach is simple enough, but it's
not much more tasteful than sys_call_table hackery IMHO
regards
john
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-10 2:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-04 23:05 vm lock contention reduction Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 23:26 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-04 23:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 1:49 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 2:18 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 2:16 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 2:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 3:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-05 4:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 5:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 6:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 6:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-05 6:33 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 7:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-07 2:50 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 3:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 11:39 ` Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) John Levon
2002-07-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 18:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 2:22 ` John Levon [this message]
2002-07-10 4:16 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 4:38 ` John Levon
2002-07-10 5:46 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 13:10 ` bob
2002-07-07 5:16 ` vm lock contention reduction Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 6:13 ` scalable kmap (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 6:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 7:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 9:04 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 8:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 14:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-08 20:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 21:08 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 22:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-07 16:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 7:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 10:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-08 7:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 17:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-08 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-09 0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 3:17 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 4:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 5:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 6:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 6:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 6:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 16:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-10 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 22:43 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-10 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 23:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-11 0:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 17:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-13 11:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-09 13:59 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 0:38 ` vm lock contention reduction William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 14:25 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-06 0:11 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-06 0:45 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 0:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-10 14:28 Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Richard J Moore
2002-07-10 20:30 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 21:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-11 4:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-11 4:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
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