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From: John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:39:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020708113928.GA80073@compsoc.man.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D27B9EA.E68B11E@zip.com.au>

[Excuse the quoting, I was out of the loop on this ...]

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 08:47:54PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:

> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > I haven't had much time to look at the oprofile thing, but what I _have_
> > seen has made me rather unhappy (especially the horrid system call
> > tracking kludges).

It makes me very unhappy too. There are a number of horrible things
there, mostly for the sake of convenience and performance.
sys_call_table is just the most obviously foul thing.  I'm glad to hear
there is interest in getting some kernel support for such things to be
done tastefully.

> > I'd rather have some generic hooks (a notion of a "profile buffer" and
> > events that cause us to have to synchronize with it, like process
> > switches, mmap/munmap - oprofile wants these too), and some generic helper
> > routines for profiling (turn any eip into a "dentry + offset" pair
> > together with ways to tag specific dentries as being "worthy" of
> > profiling).

How do you see such dentry names being exported to user-space for the
profiling daemon to access ? The current oprofile scheme is, um, less
than ideal ...

> So.  John.  Get coding :-)

I'm interested in doing so but I'd like to hear some more on how people
perceive this working. It essentially means a fork for a lot of the
kernel-side code, so it'd mean a lot more work for us (at least until I
can drop the 2.2/2.4 versions).

regards
john

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-08 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-04 23:05 vm lock contention reduction Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 23:26 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-04 23:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05  1:37   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  1:49     ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05  2:18       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  2:16         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05  2:53           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  3:52             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-05  4:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05  5:38             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  5:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05  6:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05  6:27                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-05  6:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  7:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-07  2:50                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07  3:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07  3:47                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 11:39                             ` John Levon [this message]
2002-07-08 17:52                               ` Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 18:41                                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10  2:22                                   ` John Levon
2002-07-10  4:16                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10  4:38                                       ` John Levon
2002-07-10  5:46                                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 13:10                                         ` bob
2002-07-07  5:16                           ` vm lock contention reduction Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07  6:13                         ` scalable kmap (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07  6:37                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07  7:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07  9:04                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 16:13                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:31                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 18:55                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 19:02                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08  7:24                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08  8:09                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 14:50                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-08 20:39                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 21:08                                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 21:45                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 22:24                                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-07 16:00                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:28                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08  7:11                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 10:15                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-08  7:00                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 17:29                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-08 22:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-09  0:16                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09  3:17                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09  4:28                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09  5:28                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09  6:15                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09  6:30                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09  6:32                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 16:08                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 17:32                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-10  5:32                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 22:43                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-10 23:08                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 23:26                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-11  0:19                                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 17:48                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-13 11:18                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-09 13:59                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08  0:38                         ` vm lock contention reduction William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05  6:46                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 14:25                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 23:11         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 23:48           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-06  0:11             ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06  0:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-06  0:45                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06  0:48               ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08  0:59                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-10 14:28 Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Richard J Moore
2002-07-10 20:30 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 21:41   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-11  4:47     ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-11  4:59       ` Karim Yaghmour

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