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From: Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>
To: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	arch@FreeBSD.ORG, linux-mm@kvack.org, sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu
Subject: Re: on load control / process swapping
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:55:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105160005.f4G05fe26435@maila.telia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200105151724.f4FHOYt54576@earth.backplane.com>

On Tuesday 15 May 2001 19:24, Matt Dillon wrote:
>     I implemented a special page-recycling algorithm in 4.1/4.2 (which is
>     still there in 4.3).  Basically it tries predict when it is possible to
>     throw away pages 'behind' a sequentially accessed file, so as not to
>     allow that file to blow away your cache.  E.G. if you have 128M of ram
>     and you are sequentially accessing a 200MB file, obviously there is
>     not much point in trying to cache the data as you read it.
>
>     But being able to predict something like this is extremely difficult.
>     In fact, nearly impossible.  And without being able to make the
>     prediction accurately you simply cannot determine how much data you
>     should try to cache before you begin recycling it.  I wound up having
>     to change the algorithm to act more like a heuristic -- it does a rough
>     prediction but doesn't hold the system to it, then allows the page
>     priority mechanism to refine the prediction.  But it can take several
>     passes (or non-passes) on the file before the page recycling
> stabilizes.
>

Are the heuristics persistent? 
Or will the first use after  boot use the rough prediction? 
For how long time will the heuristic stick? Suppose it is suddenly used in
a slightly different way. Like two sequential readers instead of one...

/RogerL

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Roger Larsson
Skelleftea
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-15 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-07 21:16 Rik van Riel
2001-05-07 22:50 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-07 23:35   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-08  0:56     ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 14:23       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-12 17:21         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 21:17           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-12 23:58         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-13 17:22           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-15  6:38             ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-15 13:39               ` Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
2001-05-15 15:31               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-15 17:24               ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-15 23:55                 ` Roger Larsson [this message]
2001-05-16  0:16                   ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16  4:22                     ` Kernel Debugger Amarnath Jolad
2001-05-16  7:58                       ` Kris Kennaway
2001-05-16 11:42                       ` Martin Frey
2001-05-16 12:04                         ` R.Oehler
2001-05-16  8:23                 ` on load control / process swapping Terry Lambert
2001-05-16 17:26                   ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-08 20:52   ` Kirk McKusick
2001-05-09  0:18     ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-09  2:07       ` Peter Jeremy
2001-05-09 19:41         ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 14:28       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-08 12:25 ` Scott F. Kaplan
2001-05-16 15:17 Charles Randall
2001-05-16 17:14 Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 17:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-16 17:54   ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-18  5:58     ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-18  6:20       ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-18 10:00         ` Andrew Reilly
2001-05-18 13:49         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-19  2:18           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-19  2:56             ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-16 17:57   ` Alfred Perlstein
2001-05-16 18:01     ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 18:10       ` Alfred Perlstein
     [not found] <OF5A705983.9566DA96-ON86256A50.00630512@hou.us.ray.com>
2001-05-18 20:13 ` Jonathan Morton

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