From: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
To: Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>
Cc: Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
arch@FreeBSD.ORG, linux-mm@kvack.org, sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu
Subject: Re: on load control / process swapping
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:41:39 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105091941.f49JfdD98861@earth.backplane.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010509120743.Y59150@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>
:I don't think this follows. A program that does something like:
:{
: extern char memory[BIG_NUMBER];
: int i;
:
: for (i = 0; i < BIG_NUMBER; i += PAGE_SIZE)
: memory[i]++;
:}
:will thrash nicely (assuming BIG_NUMBER is large compared to the
:currently available physical memory). Occasionally, it will be
:runnable - at which stage it has a footprint of only two pages, but
Why only two pages? It looks to me like the footprint is BIG_NUMBER
bytes.
:after executing a couple of instructions, it'll have another page
:fault. Old pages will remain resident for some time before they age
:enough to be paged out. If the VM system is stressed, swapping this
:process out completely would seem to be a win.
Not exactly. Page aging works both ways. Just accessing a page
once does not give it priority over everything else in the page
queues.
:...
:you ignore spikes due to process initialisation etc, a process that
:faults very quickly after being given the CPU wants a working set size
:that is larger than the VM system currently allows. The fault rate
:would seem to be proportional to the ratio between the wanted WSS and
:allowed RSS. This would seem to be a useful parameter to help decide
:which process to swap out - in an ideal world the VM subsystem would
:swap processes to keep the WSS of all in-core processes at about the
:size of non-kernel RAM.
:
:Peter
Fault rate isn't useful -- maybe faults that require large disk seeks
would be useful, but just counting the faults themselves is not useful.
-Matt
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-09 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-07 21:16 Rik van Riel
2001-05-07 22:50 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-07 23:35 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-08 0:56 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 14:23 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-12 17:21 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-12 21:17 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-12 23:58 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-13 17:22 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-15 6:38 ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-15 13:39 ` Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
2001-05-15 15:31 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-15 17:24 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-15 23:55 ` Roger Larsson
2001-05-16 0:16 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 4:22 ` Kernel Debugger Amarnath Jolad
2001-05-16 7:58 ` Kris Kennaway
2001-05-16 11:42 ` Martin Frey
2001-05-16 12:04 ` R.Oehler
2001-05-16 8:23 ` on load control / process swapping Terry Lambert
2001-05-16 17:26 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-08 20:52 ` Kirk McKusick
2001-05-09 0:18 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-09 2:07 ` Peter Jeremy
2001-05-09 19:41 ` Matt Dillon [this message]
2001-05-12 14:28 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-08 12:25 ` Scott F. Kaplan
2001-05-16 15:17 Charles Randall
2001-05-16 17:14 Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 17:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-16 17:54 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-18 5:58 ` Terry Lambert
2001-05-18 6:20 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-18 10:00 ` Andrew Reilly
2001-05-18 13:49 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-19 2:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-19 2:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-16 17:57 ` Alfred Perlstein
2001-05-16 18:01 ` Matt Dillon
2001-05-16 18:10 ` Alfred Perlstein
[not found] <OF5A705983.9566DA96-ON86256A50.00630512@hou.us.ray.com>
2001-05-18 20:13 ` Jonathan Morton
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