From: Philipp Rumpf <prumpf@mandrakesoft.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Patrick O'Rourke <orourke@missioncriticallinux.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:29:02 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010322132902.B23177@mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m18zly2pam.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from Eric W. Biederman on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:14:41AM -0700
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:14:41AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> writes:
> Is there ever a case where killing init is the right thing to do?
There are cases where panic() is the right thing to do. Broken init
is such a case.
> My impression is that if init is selected the whole machine dies.
> If you can kill init and still have a machine that mostly works,
you can't.
> Guaranteeing not to select init can buy you piece of mind because
> init if properly setup can put the machine back together again, while
> not special casing init means something weird might happen and init
> would be selected.
If we're in a situation where long-running processes with relatively
small VM are killed the box is very unlikely to be usable anyway.
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-03-21 22:54 Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-21 23:11 ` Eli Carter
2001-03-21 23:40 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-21 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 8:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-22 9:24 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 19:29 ` Philipp Rumpf [this message]
2001-03-22 11:47 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 15:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 19:04 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 23:10 ` Jordi Polo
2001-03-22 16:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-22 20:28 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-22 21:01 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-03-22 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 22:00 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 22:12 ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-03-22 22:52 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:27 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 23:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-26 19:04 ` James Antill
2001-03-26 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 20:09 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 22:37 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 19:57 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-22 22:10 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 22:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:30 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:43 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-23 19:26 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 20:41 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-23 21:58 ` george anzinger
2001-03-24 5:55 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 8:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-27 14:05 ` Scott F. Kaplan
2001-03-28 0:00 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-30 3:18 ` Scott F. Kaplan
2001-03-30 23:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 22:18 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-24 2:08 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-23 1:31 ` Michael Peddemors
2002-03-23 0:33 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-22 23:53 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-23 1:21 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 0:20 ` Stephen Clouse
2002-03-23 1:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 1:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 10:48 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 14:56 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 16:43 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-24 5:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 16:35 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 17:26 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-23 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 18:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 19:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-23 23:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-25 13:54 ` [PATCH] OOM handling Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 15:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 15:20 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 17:08 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 15:44 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 15:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 16:36 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-26 21:34 ` Kevin Buhr
2001-03-26 22:00 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 15:30 ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 20:47 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-03-25 21:51 ` [PATCH] non-overcommit memory, improved OOM handling, safety margin (was Re: Prevent OOM from killing init) Jonathan Morton
2001-03-27 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-23 20:16 ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init Jordi Polo
2001-03-24 0:03 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-24 7:52 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 14:53 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-22 19:24 ` Philipp Rumpf
2001-03-22 22:20 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-23 17:31 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-24 5:54 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 6:55 ` Juha Saarinen
2001-03-22 11:08 Heusden, Folkert van
[not found] <4605B269DB001E4299157DD1569079D2809930@EXCHANGE03.plaza.ds.adp.com>
2001-03-22 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 18:32 ` Christian Bodmer
[not found] <20010323015358Z129164-406+3041@vger.kernel.org>
2001-03-23 7:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 11:28 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 14:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 17:21 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 20:18 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-24 20:19 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-23 23:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 9:28 Heusden, Folkert van
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