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From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mingo@redhat.com, alan@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86 ptep_get_and_clear question
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:19:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010215201945.A2505@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200102151905.LAA62688@google.engr.sgi.com>; from kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:05:00AM -0800

Kanoj Sarcar wrote:
> > Is the sequence
> > << lock;
> > read pte
> > pte |= dirty
> > write pte
> > >> end lock;
> > or
> > << lock;
> > read pte
> > if (!present(pte))
> > 	do_page_fault();
> > pte |= dirty
> > write pte.
> > >> end lock;
> 
> No, it is a little more complicated. You also have to include in the
> tlb state into this algorithm. Since that is what we are talking about.
> Specifically, what does the processor do when it has a tlb entry allowing
> RW, the processor has only done reads using the translation, and the 
> in-memory pte is clear?

Yes (no to the no): Manfred's pseudo-code is exactly the question you're
asking.  Because when the TLB entry is non-dirty and you do a write, we
_know_ the processor will do a locked memory cycle to update the dirty
bit.  A locked memory cycle implies read-modify-write, not "write TLB
entry + dirty" (which would be a plain write) or anything like that.

Given you know it's a locked cycle, the only sensible design from Intel
is going to be one of Manfred's scenarios.

An interesting thought experiment though is this:

<< lock;
read pte
pte |= dirty
write pte
>> end lock;
if (!present(pte))
	do_page_fault();

It would have a mighty odd effect wouldn't it?

-- Jamie
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-15 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-15  1:50 Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15  2:13 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15  2:37   ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 10:55   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 16:06     ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 16:35       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 17:23         ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 17:27           ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 17:38             ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 17:46               ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 17:47           ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 18:05             ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 18:23             ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 18:42               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 18:57                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 19:06                   ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 19:19                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 18:51               ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-15 19:05                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 19:19                   ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2001-02-15 19:07                 ` Jamie Lokier

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