From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, mingo@redhat.com, alan@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86 ptep_get_and_clear question
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:19:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010215201945.A2505@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200102151905.LAA62688@google.engr.sgi.com>; from kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:05:00AM -0800
Kanoj Sarcar wrote:
> > Is the sequence
> > << lock;
> > read pte
> > pte |= dirty
> > write pte
> > >> end lock;
> > or
> > << lock;
> > read pte
> > if (!present(pte))
> > do_page_fault();
> > pte |= dirty
> > write pte.
> > >> end lock;
>
> No, it is a little more complicated. You also have to include in the
> tlb state into this algorithm. Since that is what we are talking about.
> Specifically, what does the processor do when it has a tlb entry allowing
> RW, the processor has only done reads using the translation, and the
> in-memory pte is clear?
Yes (no to the no): Manfred's pseudo-code is exactly the question you're
asking. Because when the TLB entry is non-dirty and you do a write, we
_know_ the processor will do a locked memory cycle to update the dirty
bit. A locked memory cycle implies read-modify-write, not "write TLB
entry + dirty" (which would be a plain write) or anything like that.
Given you know it's a locked cycle, the only sensible design from Intel
is going to be one of Manfred's scenarios.
An interesting thought experiment though is this:
<< lock;
read pte
pte |= dirty
write pte
>> end lock;
if (!present(pte))
do_page_fault();
It would have a mighty odd effect wouldn't it?
-- Jamie
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-15 19:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-02-15 1:50 Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 2:13 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 2:37 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 10:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 16:06 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 16:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 17:23 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 17:27 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 17:38 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 17:46 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 18:05 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 18:23 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-15 18:57 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 19:06 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-15 19:19 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 18:51 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-15 19:05 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2001-02-15 19:19 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2001-02-15 19:07 ` Jamie Lokier
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