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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Subtle MM bug
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:57:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010108135700.O9321@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101072223160.29065-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:42:11PM -0800

Hi,

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:42:11PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> and just get rid of all the logic to try to "find the best mm". It's bogus
> anyway: we should get perfectly fair access patterns by just doing
> everything in round-robin

Definitely.

> Then, with something like the above, we just try to make sure that we scan
> the whole virtual memory space every once in a while. Make the "every once
> in a while" be some simple heuristic like "try to keep the active list to
> less than 50% of all memory".

... which will produce an enormous storm of soft page faults for
workloads involving mmaping large amounts of data or where we have
a lot of space devoted to anonymous pages, such as static
computational workloads.

The idea of an inactive list target is sound, but it needs to be based
on memory pressure: we don't need anything like 50% if we aren't under
any pressure, so compute-bound workloads with large data sets can
achieve stability.

--Stephen
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-08 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200101080602.WAA02132@pizda.ninka.net>
2001-01-08  6:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 13:11   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-08 16:42     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 13:57   ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2001-01-08 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 18:10       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-08 21:52         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09  0:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 23:49             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09  3:12               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:33                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09 22:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 21:33                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09 22:11                       ` Yet another bogus piece of do_try_to_free_pages() Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10  0:06                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  6:39                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10 22:19                             ` Roger Larsson
2001-01-11  0:11                             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17  6:58                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17  6:07                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-17 19:04                                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17 19:22                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18  0:55                                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17  6:52                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-09 23:58                       ` Subtle MM bug Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 22:21                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10  0:23                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  0:12                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10 11:29                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11  3:30                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-11  9:42                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 15:24                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-17  4:54                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 16:45   ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:50     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 18:21       ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 18:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-07 20:59 Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-07 21:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-07 22:33   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09  2:01   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17  4:48     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 18:53       ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-18  1:32         ` Rik van Riel

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