From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
mingo@elte.hu, Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>,
MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: the new VMt
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:39:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000925183947.K2615@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000925180500.B26719@athlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 06:05:00PM +0200
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 06:05:00PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:42:49PM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> > Progress is made, clean pages are discarded and dirty ones queued for
>
> How can you make progress if there isn't swap avaiable and all the
> freeable page/buffer cache is just been freed? The deadlock happens
> in OOM condition (not when we can make progress).
Agreed --- this assumes that all pinned, nonswappable pages are
subject to resource limiting to prevent them from exhausting the whole
of memory. For things like page tables, that means we need
beancounter in place for us to be 100% safe. For the no-swap case,
that requires an OOM killer.
The problem of avoiding filling memory with pinned pages is orthogonal
to the problem of managing the unpinned memory. Both are obviously
required for a stable system.
Cheers,
Stephen
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Thread overview: 243+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-09-24 10:11 __GFP_IO && shrink_[d|i]cache_memory()? Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-24 18:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-24 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-24 18:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 19:34 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 20:20 ` Rui Sousa
2000-09-24 20:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 20:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 21:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 21:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 21:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-24 22:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 22:36 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 - fixing deadlocks bert hubert
2000-09-24 23:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:24 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 17:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 18:06 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 19:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 19:26 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 22:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:26 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 22:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 23:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-26 0:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:30 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-09-25 23:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 19:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 22:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:42 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-26 6:54 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-26 14:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-26 16:20 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-26 17:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 8:11 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-27 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-27 9:24 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-27 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 16:56 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-27 17:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 18:25 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-27 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-28 10:08 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-28 11:16 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-28 14:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-29 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-29 14:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-29 15:40 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-28 11:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-28 14:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-28 15:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-28 15:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-28 16:16 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-09-28 14:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:21 ` bert hubert
2000-09-25 17:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:09 ` Miles Lane
2000-09-25 15:51 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:06 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 16:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 4:56 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 5:19 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 6:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 6:17 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 21:21 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 13:42 ` [CFT][PATCH] ext2 directories in pagecache Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 21:29 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 22:16 ` Marko Kreen
2000-09-26 22:31 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 22:47 ` Marko Kreen
2000-09-27 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-27 9:22 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 23:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2000-09-26 23:33 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 23:44 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 0:09 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 0:49 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 0:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-09-25 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 2:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-09-25 15:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 10:42 ` the new VM Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:22 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2000-09-26 20:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-27 12:11 ` yodaiken
2000-09-27 14:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:09 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 14:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-09-25 14:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:47 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:16 ` the new VMt Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:33 ` the new VM Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:41 ` the new VMt Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:04 ` Andi Kleen
2000-09-25 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:18 ` Andi Kleen
2000-09-25 16:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 16:41 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 17:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 17:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:10 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 17:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 7:14 ` Rusty Russell
2000-09-25 20:23 ` Russell King
2000-09-25 16:28 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:17 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 16:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-09-25 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 17:01 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 17:06 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 17:31 ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-09-25 17:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-09-25 19:03 ` the new VMt [4MB+ blocks] Matti Aarnio
2000-09-25 20:02 ` Stephen Williams
2000-09-25 16:33 ` the new VMt Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-26 8:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2000-09-26 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-26 9:02 ` Jes Sorensen
2000-09-25 16:53 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:42 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:22 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:39 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2000-09-25 16:51 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 17:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 18:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 19:09 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 19:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:52 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 17:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-09-25 17:51 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 18:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-09-25 18:13 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 18:24 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 18:34 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-09-25 19:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 20:04 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 20:35 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:46 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 21:07 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 9:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 13:17 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:47 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2000-09-25 21:12 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 10:07 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 13:30 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:32 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 12:10 ` Mark Hemment
2000-09-27 10:13 ` Andrey Savochkin
2000-09-27 12:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2000-09-28 3:25 ` Andrey Savochkin
2000-09-25 23:14 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-26 15:17 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 16:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 17:02 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-26 17:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 17:45 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-27 10:20 ` Andrey Savochkin
2000-09-26 21:13 ` Eric Lowe
2000-09-25 18:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:16 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:55 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:48 ` the new VM Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:37 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 20:34 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-10-06 16:14 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 7:37 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-25 13:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 1:31 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 1:27 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 2:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 2:01 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 13:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 12:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:49 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:05 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 17:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 17:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:11 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:08 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:18 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 21:28 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 22:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 21:38 ` __GFP_IO && shrink_[d|i]cache_memory()? Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-24 23:20 ` Alan Cox
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