From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>,
MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: the new VM
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:02:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000925150258.B13011@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0009251229110.1459-100000@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:42:09PM +0200
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:42:09PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> believe could simplify unrelated kernel code significantly. Eg. no need to
> check for NULL pointers on most allocations, a GFP_KERNEL allocation
> always succeeds, end of story. This behavior also has the 'nice'
Sorry I totally disagree. If GFP_KERNEL are garanteeded to succeed that is a
showstopper bug. We also have another showstopper bug in getblk that will be
hard to fix because people was used to rely on it and they wrote dealdock prone
code.
You should know that people not running benchmarks and and using the machine
power for simulations runs out of memory all the time. If you put this kind of
obvious deadlock into the main kernel allocator you'll screwup the hard work to
fix all the other deadlock problems during OOM that is been done so far. Please
fix raid1 instead of making things worse.
Andrea
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Thread overview: 243+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-09-24 10:11 __GFP_IO && shrink_[d|i]cache_memory()? Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-24 18:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-24 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-24 18:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 19:34 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 20:20 ` Rui Sousa
2000-09-24 20:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 20:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 21:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 21:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-24 21:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-24 22:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 22:36 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 - fixing deadlocks bert hubert
2000-09-24 23:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:24 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 17:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 18:06 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 19:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 19:26 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 22:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:26 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 22:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 23:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-26 0:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:30 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-09-25 23:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 19:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 22:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 22:42 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-26 6:54 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-26 14:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-26 16:20 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-26 17:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 8:11 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-27 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-27 9:24 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-27 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 16:56 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-27 17:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 18:25 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-27 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-28 10:08 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-28 11:16 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-28 14:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-29 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-29 14:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-29 15:40 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-28 11:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-28 14:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-28 15:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-28 15:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-28 16:16 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-09-28 14:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:21 ` bert hubert
2000-09-25 17:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:09 ` Miles Lane
2000-09-25 15:51 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:06 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 16:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 4:56 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 5:19 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 6:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 6:17 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 21:21 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 13:42 ` [CFT][PATCH] ext2 directories in pagecache Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 21:29 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 22:16 ` Marko Kreen
2000-09-26 22:31 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 22:47 ` Marko Kreen
2000-09-27 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-27 9:22 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 23:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2000-09-26 23:33 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-26 23:44 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 0:09 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 0:49 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 0:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-09-25 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 2:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-09-25 15:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 10:42 ` the new VM Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2000-09-25 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:22 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2000-09-26 20:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-27 12:11 ` yodaiken
2000-09-27 14:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:09 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 14:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-09-25 14:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:47 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:16 ` the new VMt Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:33 ` the new VM Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:41 ` the new VMt Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:04 ` Andi Kleen
2000-09-25 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:18 ` Andi Kleen
2000-09-25 16:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 16:41 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 17:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 17:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:10 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 17:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-27 7:14 ` Rusty Russell
2000-09-25 20:23 ` Russell King
2000-09-25 16:28 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 16:17 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 16:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-09-25 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 17:01 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 17:06 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 17:31 ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-09-25 17:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-09-25 19:03 ` the new VMt [4MB+ blocks] Matti Aarnio
2000-09-25 20:02 ` Stephen Williams
2000-09-25 16:33 ` the new VMt Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-26 8:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2000-09-26 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-26 9:02 ` Jes Sorensen
2000-09-25 16:53 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:42 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:22 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 17:39 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:51 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 17:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 18:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 19:09 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 19:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:52 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 17:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-09-25 17:51 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 18:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-09-25 18:13 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 18:24 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 18:34 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-09-25 19:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 20:04 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 20:35 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:46 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 21:07 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 9:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 13:17 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:47 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2000-09-25 21:12 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 10:07 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 13:30 ` yodaiken
2000-09-25 20:32 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 12:10 ` Mark Hemment
2000-09-27 10:13 ` Andrey Savochkin
2000-09-27 12:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2000-09-28 3:25 ` Andrey Savochkin
2000-09-25 23:14 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-26 15:17 ` yodaiken
2000-09-26 16:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 17:02 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-26 17:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-26 17:45 ` Erik Andersen
2000-09-27 10:20 ` Andrey Savochkin
2000-09-26 21:13 ` Eric Lowe
2000-09-25 18:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 16:16 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 16:55 ` Alan Cox
2000-09-25 15:48 ` the new VM Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 16:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:37 ` Rik van Riel
2000-09-25 20:34 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-10-06 16:14 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 7:37 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-09-25 13:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 1:31 ` [patch] vmfixes-2.4.0-test9-B2 Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 1:27 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 2:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 2:01 ` Alexander Viro
2000-09-25 13:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-25 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 12:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 13:49 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:05 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-09-25 17:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 17:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:11 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 13:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:08 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:18 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 14:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 21:28 ` Jens Axboe
2000-09-25 22:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 14:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-25 14:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-09-25 15:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-09-24 21:38 ` __GFP_IO && shrink_[d|i]cache_memory()? Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-09-24 23:20 ` Alan Cox
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