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From: Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: sct@redhat.com, roman@augan.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, rmk@arm.linux.org.uk,
	nico@cam.org, davidm@hpl.hp.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: pte_pagenr/MAP_NR deleted in pre6
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:32:35 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200008171932.MAA93790@google.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200008171901.MAA23835@pizda.ninka.net> from "David S. Miller" at Aug 17, 2000 12:01:49 PM

> 
>    Whatever you do, you either have to introduce paddr_t (which to me
>    seems more intuitive) or page_to_pfn. We can argue one way or
>    another, but paddr_t might give you type checking for free too ...
> 
> My only two gripes about paddr_t is that long long is not only
> expensive but has been also known to be buggy on 32-bit platforms.

Yeah, yeah, I know ... (I didn't know about the buggy bit though).
OTOH, paddr_t is such an intuitive concept (and without any disadvantages
on any platform other than i386-PAE), its unfortunate if it
gets shot down just because of this ...

> 
> The next gripe is that it will make many clueless driver
> etc. developers (who don't read documentation even, but write a large
> portion of the vendor Linux drivers :-) will try to do things
> like "void *p = (void *) (PAGE_OFFSET + x->paddr);" and expect
> this to work, or maybe they'll even pass it to virt_to_bus or similar.

Wait! You are saying you have a scheme that will prevent writers 
from writing buggy code that happens to work only on 32Mb i386 ...
Go ahead, I am all ears :-)

Basically, with all the pci-dma and sct's alternate page_to_pfn
suggestion interfaces, you still can not claim that people will 
not do 

	void *p = (void *) (PAGE_OFFSET + page_to_pfn(p) << PAGE_SHIFT)

and check that code in because it works on their 1Gb i386 box. No?

Kanoj
 
> If people don't think these two things will be an issue, fine with
> me. :-)
> 
> Which reminds me, we need to schedule a field day early 2.5.x where
> virt_to_bus and bus_to_virt are exterminated, this is the only way we
> can move to drivers using page+offset correctly, forcing them through
> interface such as the pci_dma API instead.
> 
> Later,
> David S. Miller
> davem@redhat.com
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-08-17 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-08-10 17:18 Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-11  2:24 ` David S. Miller
2000-08-14  0:34   ` Anton Blanchard
2000-08-11 11:50 ` Roman Zippel
2000-08-11 13:20   ` Russell King
2000-08-11 14:56     ` Roman Zippel
2000-08-12  9:18       ` Bjorn Wesen
2000-08-11 17:21     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-14  9:29       ` Roman Zippel
2000-08-15 16:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-08-16  8:25   ` Roman Zippel
2000-08-16 17:13     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-16 18:20       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-08-16 18:24         ` David S. Miller
2000-08-16 19:53           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-08-16 18:47         ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-16 18:39           ` David S. Miller
2000-08-16 19:30             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-08-16 22:22         ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-17  9:11           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-08-17 19:07             ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-17 19:01               ` David S. Miller
2000-08-17 19:19                 ` Alan Cox
2000-08-17 19:20                   ` David S. Miller
2000-08-17 19:33                     ` Alan Cox
2000-08-17 19:36                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-09-07 14:31                       ` Ralf Baechle
2000-08-17 19:50                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-17 19:41                       ` David S. Miller
2000-09-07 14:26                         ` Ralf Baechle
2000-08-17 19:56                       ` Alan Cox
2000-08-17 19:24                   ` Alan Cox
2000-08-17 19:32                 ` Kanoj Sarcar [this message]
2000-08-17 19:30                   ` David S. Miller
2000-08-17 20:00                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-16 18:17     ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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