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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie.lokier@cern.ch>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: MADV_DONTNEED
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:10:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000322171045.D2850@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.10.10003221125170.16476-100000@funky.monkey.org>; from cel@monkey.org on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:04:58PM -0500

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:04:58PM -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> 
> so we agree that both behaviors might be useful to expose to an
> application.  the only question is what to name them.
> 
> function 1 (could be MADV_DISCARD; currently MADV_DONTNEED):
>   discard pages.  if they are referenced again, the process causes page
>   faults to read original data (zero page for anonymous maps).
> 
> function 2 (could be MADV_FREE; currently msync(MS_INVALIDATE)):
>   release pages, syncing dirty data.  if they are referenced again, the
>   process causes page faults to read in latest data.
> 
> function 3 (could be MADV_ZERO):
>   discard pages.  if they are referenced again, the process sees C-O-W 
>   zeroed pages.
> 
> function 4 (for comparison; currently munmap):
>   release pages, syncing dirty data.  if they are referenced again, the
>   process causes invalid memory access faults.
> 
> i'm interested to hear what big database folks have to say about this.

The requests I've seen from database vendors are specifically for
function 1 above.  I'd expect that they could live with function 3 
too, though --- perhaps the main reason they asked for 1 is that 
this is what they are used to working with on some other systems 
(I don't know offhand of anybody who implements 3: it seems an odd
thing to want to do for shared pages, and is equivalent to 1 for 
private mappings.)

--Stephen
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-22 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20000320135939.A3390@pcep-jamie.cern.ch>
2000-03-20 19:09 ` MADV_SPACEAVAIL and MADV_FREE in pre2-3 Chuck Lever
2000-03-21  1:20   ` madvise (MADV_FREE) Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21  2:24     ` William J. Earl
2000-03-21 14:08       ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 16:24     ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 18:05       ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 21:39         ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 22:31           ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 22:44             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-23 18:53             ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-24  0:00               ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24  9:14                 ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-24 13:10                   ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24 13:54                     ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-24 14:17                       ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24 17:40                         ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-24 18:13                           ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-25  8:35                             ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-28  0:48                 ` /dev/recycle Chuck Lever
2000-03-24  0:21               ` madvise (MADV_FREE) Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24  7:21                 ` lars brinkhoff
2000-03-24 17:42                   ` Jeff Dike
2000-03-24 16:49                     ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24 17:08                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-24 19:58                       ` Jeff Dike
2000-03-25  0:30                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 22:33           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 22:45             ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 22:48               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 22:55                 ` Q. about swap-cache orphans Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 22:58                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 18:15       ` madvise (MADV_FREE) Christoph Rohland
2000-03-22 18:30         ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-23 16:56           ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-21  1:29   ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 17:04     ` MADV_DONTNEED Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 17:10       ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2000-03-22 17:32         ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 17:33         ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 17:37           ` MADV_DONTNEED Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 17:43       ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 21:54         ` MADV_DONTNEED Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 22:41           ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-23 19:13             ` MADV_DONTNEED James Antill
2000-03-21  1:47   ` Extensions to mincore Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21  9:11     ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-03-21  9:40       ` lars brinkhoff
2000-03-21 11:34       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-21 15:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21 15:41           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-21 15:55             ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21 16:08               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-21 16:48                 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22  7:36                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-03-21  1:50   ` MADV flags as mmap options Jamie Lokier

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