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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie.lokier@cern.ch>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm+eric@ccr.net>,
	Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Extensions to mincore
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:08:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000321160828.C8204@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000321165532.A5461@pcep-jamie.cern.ch>; from jamie.lokier@cern.ch on Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:55:32PM +0100

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:55:32PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> 
> Didn't you read a few paragraphs down, where I explain how to implement
> this?  You've got struct page.  It is enough for private mappings, and
> we don't need this feature for shared mappings.

Umm, yes, but just saying "we'll solve synchronisation problems by 
stopping all the other threads" hardly seems like a "solution" to me:
more of a workaround of the problem!  mprotect() does work correctly
without stopping other threads.

> It would be enough the say "the mincore accessed/dirty bits are not
> guaranteed to be accurate if pages are accessed by concurrent threads
> during the mincore call".

Exactly why you need mprotect, which _does_ make the necessary 
guarantees.

Oh, and suggesting that we can obtain the dirty bit by assuming all
mappings are private doesn't work either.  Private mappings *need* a 
per-pte (NOT per-page, but per-pte) dirty bit to distinguish between 
pages shared with the underlying mapped object, and pages which have
been modified by the local process.

--Stephen

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-21 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20000320135939.A3390@pcep-jamie.cern.ch>
2000-03-20 19:09 ` MADV_SPACEAVAIL and MADV_FREE in pre2-3 Chuck Lever
2000-03-21  1:20   ` madvise (MADV_FREE) Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21  2:24     ` William J. Earl
2000-03-21 14:08       ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 16:24     ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 18:05       ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 21:39         ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 22:31           ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 22:44             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-23 18:53             ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-24  0:00               ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24  9:14                 ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-24 13:10                   ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24 13:54                     ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-24 14:17                       ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24 17:40                         ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-24 18:13                           ` /dev/recycle Jamie Lokier
2000-03-25  8:35                             ` /dev/recycle Christoph Rohland
2000-03-28  0:48                 ` /dev/recycle Chuck Lever
2000-03-24  0:21               ` madvise (MADV_FREE) Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24  7:21                 ` lars brinkhoff
2000-03-24 17:42                   ` Jeff Dike
2000-03-24 16:49                     ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-24 17:08                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-24 19:58                       ` Jeff Dike
2000-03-25  0:30                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 22:33           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 22:45             ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 22:48               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 22:55                 ` Q. about swap-cache orphans Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 22:58                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 18:15       ` madvise (MADV_FREE) Christoph Rohland
2000-03-22 18:30         ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-23 16:56           ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-21  1:29   ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 17:04     ` MADV_DONTNEED Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 17:10       ` MADV_DONTNEED Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 17:32         ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 17:33         ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 17:37           ` MADV_DONTNEED Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-22 17:43       ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22 21:54         ` MADV_DONTNEED Chuck Lever
2000-03-22 22:41           ` MADV_DONTNEED Jamie Lokier
2000-03-23 19:13             ` MADV_DONTNEED James Antill
2000-03-21  1:47   ` Extensions to mincore Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21  9:11     ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-03-21  9:40       ` lars brinkhoff
2000-03-21 11:34       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-21 15:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21 15:41           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-21 15:55             ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-21 16:08               ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2000-03-21 16:48                 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-03-22  7:36                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-03-21  1:50   ` MADV flags as mmap options Jamie Lokier

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