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From: "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <jack@suse.cz>,
	<hughd@google.com>, <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	<mhocko@suse.com>, <ak@linux.intel.com>, <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	<npiggin@gmail.com>, <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	<willy@infradead.org>, <rppt@kernel.org>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	<ying.huang@intel.com>, <tim.c.chen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multiple consecutive page for anonymous mapping
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:13:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fe162ad-350b-c1cd-411a-f277281bd6ba@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230109083746.dzpsdk5mxoxvym6j@box.shutemov.name>



On 1/9/2023 4:37 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 03:22:28PM +0800, Yin Fengwei wrote:
>> In a nutshell:  4k is too small and 2M is too big.  We started
>> asking ourselves whether there was something in the middle that
>> we could do.  This series shows what that middle ground might
>> look like.  It provides some of the benefits of THP while
>> eliminating some of the downsides.
>>
>> This series uses "multiple consecutive pages" (mcpages) of
>> between 8K and 2M of base pages for anonymous user space mappings.
>> This will lead to less internal fragmentation versus 2M mappings
>> and thus less memory consumption and wasted CPU time zeroing
>> memory which will never be used.
>>
>> In the implementation, we allocate high order page with order of
>> mcpage (e.g., order 2 for 16KB mcpage). This makes sure the
>> physical contiguous memory is used and benefit sequential memory
>> access latency.
>>
>> Then split the high order page. By doing this, the sub-page of
>> mcpage is just 4K normal page. The current kernel page
>> management is applied to "mc" pages without any changes. Batching
>> page faults is allowed with mcpage and reduce page faults number.
>>
>> There are costs with mcpage. Besides no TLB benefit THP brings, it
>> increases memory consumption and latency of allocation page
>> comparing to 4K base page.
>>
>> This series is the first step of mcpage. The furture work can be
>> enable mcpage for more components like page cache, swapping etc.
>> Finally, most pages in system will be allocated/free/reclaimed
>> with mcpage order.
> 
> It doesn't worth adding a new path in page fault handing. We need to make
> existing mechanisms more flexible.
> 
> I think it has to be done on top of folios:
> 
> 1. Converts anonymous memory to folios. Only order-9 (HPAGE_PMD_ORDER) and
>    order-0 at first.
> 2. Remove assumption of THP being order-9.
> 3. Start allocating THPs <order-9.
Thanks a lot for the comments. Really appreciate it.


Regards
Yin, Fengwei

> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-09  7:22 Yin Fengwei
2023-01-09  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mcpage: add size/mask/shift definition for multiple consecutive page Yin Fengwei
2023-01-09 13:24   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-09 16:30     ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-09 17:01       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-10  2:53     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-01-09  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mcpage: anon page: Use mcpage for anonymous mapping Yin Fengwei
2023-01-09  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] mcpage: add vmstat counters for mcpages Yin Fengwei
2023-01-09  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mcpage: get_unmapped_area return mcpage size aligned addr Yin Fengwei
2023-01-09  8:37 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multiple consecutive page for anonymous mapping Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-01-11  6:13   ` Yin, Fengwei [this message]
2023-01-09 17:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-09 19:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-10 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-10  3:57   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-01-10 14:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-11  6:12       ` Yin, Fengwei

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