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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	"Sang, Oliver" <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	Jay Patel <jaypatel@linux.ibm.com>,
	Binder Makin <merimus@google.com>,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, tsahu@linux.ibm.com,
	piyushs@linux.ibm.com, fengwei.yin@intel.com,
	ying.huang@intel.com, lkp <lkp@intel.com>,
	"oe-lkp@lists.linux.dev" <oe-lkp@lists.linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] mm/slub: prefer NUMA locality over slight memory saving on NUMA machines
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 16:54:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f88aff2-8027-1020-71b2-6a6528f82207@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230723190906.4082646-3-42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>

On 7/23/23 21:09, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> By default, SLUB sets remote_node_defrag_ratio to 1000, which makes it
> (in most cases) take slabs from remote nodes first before trying allocating
> new folios on the local node from buddy.
> 
> Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-slab says:
>> The file remote_node_defrag_ratio specifies the percentage of
>> times SLUB will attempt to refill the cpu slab with a partial
>> slab from a remote node as opposed to allocating a new slab on
>> the local node.  This reduces the amount of wasted memory over
>> the entire system but can be expensive.
> 
> Although this made sense when it was introduced, the portion of
> per node partial lists in the overall SLUB memory usage has been decreased
> since the introduction of per cpu partial lists. Therefore, it's worth
> reevaluating its overhead on performance and memory usage.
> 
> [
> 	XXX: Add performance data. I tried to measure its impact on
> 	hackbench with a 2 socket NUMA 	machine. but it seems hackbench is
> 	too synthetic to benefit from this, because the	skbuff_head_cache's
> 	size fits into the last level cache.
> 
> 	Probably more realistic workloads like netperf would benefit
> 	from this?
> ]
> 
> Set remote_node_defrag_ratio to zero by default, and the new behavior is:
> 	1) try refilling per CPU partial list from the local node
> 	2) try allocating new slabs from the local node without reclamation
> 	3) try refilling per CPU partial list from remote nodes
> 	4) try allocating new slabs from the local node or remote nodes
> 
> If user specified remote_node_defrag_ratio, it probabilistically tries
> 3) first and then try 2) and 4) in order, to avoid unexpected behavioral
> change from user's perspective.

It makes sense to me, but as you note it would be great to demonstrate
benefits, because it adds complexity, especially in the already complex
___slab_alloc(). Networking has been indeed historically a workload very
sensitive to slab performance, so seems a good candidate.

We could also postpone this until we have tried the percpu arrays
improvements discussed at LSF/MM.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-03 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-23 19:09 [RFC 0/2] An attempt to improve SLUB on NUMA / under memory pressure Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-07-23 19:09 ` [RFC 1/2] Revert "mm, slub: change percpu partial accounting from objects to pages" Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-07-26 10:34   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-08-21 15:11     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-07-23 19:09 ` [RFC 2/2] mm/slub: prefer NUMA locality over slight memory saving on NUMA machines Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-08-03 14:54   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2023-08-07  8:39     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-08-08  9:59       ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-08-10 10:55 ` [RFC 0/2] An attempt to improve SLUB on NUMA / under memory pressure Jay Patel
2023-08-10 18:06   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-08-18  6:45     ` Jay Patel
2023-08-18 15:18       ` Hyeonggon Yoo

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