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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
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	 kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] mm: split underutilized THPs
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 22:13:27 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1e6f3b38-d309-e63f-bca0-5093e152f7d7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240813120328.1275952-1-usamaarif642@gmail.com>

On Tue, 13 Aug 2024, Usama Arif wrote:

> The current upstream default policy for THP is always. However, Meta
> uses madvise in production as the current THP=always policy vastly
> overprovisions THPs in sparsely accessed memory areas, resulting in
> excessive memory pressure and premature OOM killing.
> Using madvise + relying on khugepaged has certain drawbacks over
> THP=always. Using madvise hints mean THPs aren't "transparent" and
> require userspace changes. Waiting for khugepaged to scan memory and
> collapse pages into THP can be slow and unpredictable in terms of performance
> (i.e. you dont know when the collapse will happen), while production
> environments require predictable performance. If there is enough memory
> available, its better for both performance and predictability to have
> a THP from fault time, i.e. THP=always rather than wait for khugepaged
> to collapse it, and deal with sparsely populated THPs when the system is
> running out of memory.
> 
> This patch-series is an attempt to mitigate the issue of running out of
> memory when THP is always enabled. During runtime whenever a THP is being
> faulted in or collapsed by khugepaged, the THP is added to a list.
> Whenever memory reclaim happens, the kernel runs the deferred_split
> shrinker which goes through the list and checks if the THP was underutilized,
> i.e. how many of the base 4K pages of the entire THP were zero-filled.
> If this number goes above a certain threshold, the shrinker will attempt
> to split that THP. Then at remap time, the pages that were zero-filled are
> mapped to the shared zeropage, hence saving memory. This method avoids the
> downside of wasting memory in areas where THP is sparsely filled when THP
> is always enabled, while still providing the upside THPs like reduced TLB
> misses without having to use madvise.
> 
> Meta production workloads that were CPU bound (>99% CPU utilzation) were
> tested with THP shrinker. The results after 2 hours are as follows:
> 
>                             | THP=madvise |  THP=always   | THP=always
>                             |             |               | + shrinker series
>                             |             |               | + max_ptes_none=409
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Performance improvement     |      -      |    +1.8%      |     +1.7%
> (over THP=madvise)          |             |               |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Memory usage                |    54.6G    | 58.8G (+7.7%) |   55.9G (+2.4%)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> max_ptes_none=409 means that any THP that has more than 409 out of 512
> (80%) zero filled filled pages will be split.
> 
> To test out the patches, the below commands without the shrinker will
> invoke OOM killer immediately and kill stress, but will not fail with
> the shrinker:
> 
> echo 450 > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/max_ptes_none
> mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/test
> echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/cgroup.procs
> echo 20M > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.max
> echo 0 > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.swap.max
> # allocate twice memory.max for each stress worker and touch 40/512 of
> # each THP, i.e. vm-stride 50K.
> # With the shrinker, max_ptes_none of 470 and below won't invoke OOM
> # killer.
> # Without the shrinker, OOM killer is invoked immediately irrespective
> # of max_ptes_none value and kills stress.
> stress --vm 1 --vm-bytes 40M --vm-stride 50K
> 
> v2 -> v3:
> - Use my_zero_pfn instead of page_to_pfn(ZERO_PAGE(..)) (Johannes)
> - Use flags argument instead of bools in remove_migration_ptes (Johannes)
> - Use a new flag in folio->_flags_1 instead of folio->_partially_mapped
>   (David Hildenbrand).
> - Split out the last patch of v2 into 3, one for introducing the flag,
>   one for splitting underutilized THPs on _deferred_list and one for adding
>   sysfs entry to disable splitting (David Hildenbrand).
> 
> v1 -> v2:
> - Turn page checks and operations to folio versions in __split_huge_page.
>   This means patches 1 and 2 from v1 are no longer needed.
>   (David Hildenbrand)
> - Map to shared zeropage in all cases if the base page is zero-filled.
>   The uffd selftest was removed.
>   (David Hildenbrand).
> - rename 'dirty' to 'contains_data' in try_to_map_unused_to_zeropage
>   (Rik van Riel).
> - Use unsigned long instead of uint64_t (kernel test robot).
>  
> Alexander Zhu (1):
>   mm: selftest to verify zero-filled pages are mapped to zeropage
> 
> Usama Arif (3):
>   mm: Introduce a pageflag for partially mapped folios
>   mm: split underutilized THPs
>   mm: add sysfs entry to disable splitting underutilized THPs
> 
> Yu Zhao (2):
>   mm: free zapped tail pages when splitting isolated thp
>   mm: remap unused subpages to shared zeropage when splitting isolated
>     thp

Sorry, I don't have time to review this, but notice you're intending
a v4 of the series, so want to bring up four points quickly before that.

1. Even with the two fixes to 1/6 in __split_huge_page(), under load
this series causes system lockup, with interrupts disabled on most CPUs.

The error is in deferred_split_scan(), where the old code just did
a list_splice_tail() under split_queue_lock, but this series ends up
doing more there, including a folio_put(): deadlock when racing, and
that is the final folio_put() which brings refcount down to 0, which
then wants to take split_queue_lock.

The patch I've been using successfully on 6.11-rc3-next-20240816 below:
I do have other problems with current mm commits, so have not been able
to sustain a load for very long, but suspect those problems unrelated
to this series. Please fold this fix, or your own equivalent, into
your next version.

--- a/mm/huge_memory.c
+++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
@@ -3270,7 +3270,8 @@ static void __split_huge_page(struct pag
 
 			folio_clear_active(new_folio);
 			folio_clear_unevictable(new_folio);
-			if (!folio_batch_add(&free_folios, folio)) {
+			list_del(&new_folio->lru);
+			if (!folio_batch_add(&free_folios, new_folio)) {
 				mem_cgroup_uncharge_folios(&free_folios);
 				free_unref_folios(&free_folios);
 			}
@@ -3706,42 +3707,37 @@ static unsigned long deferred_split_scan
 		bool did_split = false;
 		bool underutilized = false;
 
-		if (folio_test_partially_mapped(folio))
-			goto split;
-		underutilized = thp_underutilized(folio);
-		if (underutilized)
-			goto split;
-		continue;
-split:
+		if (!folio_test_partially_mapped(folio)) {
+			underutilized = thp_underutilized(folio);
+			if (!underutilized)
+				goto next;
+		}
 		if (!folio_trylock(folio))
-			continue;
-		did_split = !split_folio(folio);
-		folio_unlock(folio);
-		if (did_split) {
-			/* Splitting removed folio from the list, drop reference here */
-			folio_put(folio);
+			goto next;
+		if (!split_folio(folio)) {
+			did_split = true;
 			if (underutilized)
 				count_vm_event(THP_UNDERUTILIZED_SPLIT_PAGE);
 			split++;
 		}
-	}
-
-	spin_lock_irqsave(&ds_queue->split_queue_lock, flags);
-	/*
-	 * Only add back to the queue if folio is partially mapped.
-	 * If thp_underutilized returns false, or if split_folio fails in
-	 * the case it was underutilized, then consider it used and don't
-	 * add it back to split_queue.
-	 */
-	list_for_each_entry_safe(folio, next, &list, _deferred_list) {
-		if (folio_test_partially_mapped(folio))
-			list_move(&folio->_deferred_list, &ds_queue->split_queue);
-		else {
+		folio_unlock(folio);
+next:
+		/*
+		 * split_folio() removes folio from list on success.
+		 * Only add back to the queue if folio is partially mapped.
+		 * If thp_underutilized returns false, or if split_folio fails
+		 * in the case it was underutilized, then consider it used and
+		 * don't add it back to split_queue.
+		 */
+		if (!did_split && !folio_test_partially_mapped(folio)) {
 			list_del_init(&folio->_deferred_list);
 			ds_queue->split_queue_len--;
 		}
 		folio_put(folio);
 	}
+
+	spin_lock_irqsave(&ds_queue->split_queue_lock, flags);
+	list_splice_tail(&list, &ds_queue->split_queue);
 	spin_unlock_irqrestore(&ds_queue->split_queue_lock, flags);
 
 	/*

2. I don't understand why there needs to be a new PG_partially_mapped
flag, with all its attendant sets and tests and clears all over.  Why
can't deferred_split_scan() detect that case for itself, using the
criteria from __folio_remove_rmap()? I see folio->_nr_pages_mapped
is commented "Do not use outside of rmap and debug code", and
folio_nr_pages_mapped() is currently only used from mm/debug.c; but
using the info already maintained is preferable to adding a PG_flag
(and perhaps more efficient - skips splitting when _nr_pages_mapped
already fell to 0 and folio will soon be freed).

3. Everything in /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/ is about THPs,
so please remove the "thp_" from "thp_low_util_shrinker" -
"shrink_underused" perhaps.  And it needs a brief description in
Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst.

4. Wouldn't "underused" be better than "underutilized" throughout?

Hugh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-18  5:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-13 12:02 Usama Arif
2024-08-13 12:02 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm: free zapped tail pages when splitting isolated thp Usama Arif
2024-08-15 18:47   ` Kairui Song
2024-08-15 19:16     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-16 16:55       ` Kairui Song
2024-08-16 17:02         ` Usama Arif
2024-08-16 18:11           ` Kairui Song
2024-08-13 12:02 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm: remap unused subpages to shared zeropage " Usama Arif
2024-08-13 12:02 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: selftest to verify zero-filled pages are mapped to zeropage Usama Arif
2024-08-13 12:02 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm: Introduce a pageflag for partially mapped folios Usama Arif
2024-08-14  3:30   ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-14 10:20     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-14 10:44   ` Barry Song
2024-08-14 10:52     ` Barry Song
2024-08-14 11:11     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-14 11:20       ` Barry Song
2024-08-14 11:26         ` Barry Song
2024-08-14 11:30         ` Usama Arif
2024-08-14 11:10   ` Barry Song
2024-08-14 11:20     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-14 11:23       ` Barry Song
2024-08-14 12:36         ` Usama Arif
2024-08-14 23:05           ` Barry Song
2024-08-15 15:25             ` Usama Arif
2024-08-15 23:30               ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-16  2:50                 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-15 16:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-15 17:10     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-15 21:06       ` Barry Song
2024-08-15 21:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 15:44   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-16 16:08     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-16 16:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-16 16:41         ` Usama Arif
2024-08-13 12:02 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] mm: split underutilized THPs Usama Arif
2024-08-13 12:02 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] mm: add sysfs entry to disable splitting " Usama Arif
2024-08-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] mm: split " Andi Kleen
2024-08-14 10:13   ` Usama Arif
2024-08-18  5:13 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2024-08-18  7:45   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19  2:38     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-19  2:36   ` Usama Arif

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