From: "liupeng (DM)" <liupeng256@huawei.com>
To: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Cc: <glider@google.com>, <dvyukov@google.com>, <corbet@lwn.net>,
<sumit.semwal@linaro.org>, <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] kfence: Add a module parameter to adjust kfence objects
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 20:09:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1e219dd7-c2d0-1d1f-f662-2002311adef6@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANpmjNO8g_MB-5T9YxLKHOe=Mo8AWTmSFGh5jmr479s=j-v0Pg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2022/1/24 19:55, Marco Elver wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 12:45, Marco Elver<elver@google.com> wrote:
>> [ FYI, your reply was not plain text, so LKML may have rejected it. I
>> advise that you switch your email client for LKML emails to plain
>> text. ]
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 12:24, liupeng (DM)<liupeng256@huawei.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> I think the only reasonable way forward is if you add immediate patching
>>>> support to the kernel as the "Note" suggests.
>>> May you give us more details about "immediate patching"?
>> [...]
>>> Thank you for your patient suggestions, it's actually helpful and inspired.
>>> We have integrated your latest work "skipping already covered allocations",
>>> and will do more experiments about KFENCE. Finally, we really hope you can
>>> give us more introductions about "immediate patching".
>> "Immediate patching" would, similar to "static branches" or
>> "alternatives" be based on code hot patching.
>>
>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/staging/static-keys.html
>>
>> "Patching immediates" would essentially patch the immediate operands
>> of certain (limited) instructions. I think designing this properly to
>> work across various architectures (like static_keys/jump_label) is
>> very complex. So it may not be a viable near-term option.
>>
>> What Dmitry suggests using a constant virtual address carveout is more
>> realistic. But this means having to discuss with arch maintainers
>> which virtual address ranges can be reserved. The nice thing about
>> just relying on memblock and nothing else is that it is very portable
>> and simple. You can have a look at how KASAN deals with organizing its
>> shadow memory if you are interested.
> Hmm, there may be more issues lurking here:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20200929140226.GB53442@C02TD0UTHF1T.local/
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20200929142411.GC53442@C02TD0UTHF1T.local/
>
> ... and I'm guessing if we assign a fixed virtual address range it'll
> live outside the linear mapping, which is likely to break certain
> requirements of kmalloc()'d allocations in certain situations (a
> problem we had with v1 of KFENCE on arm64).
>
> So I don't even know if that's feasible. :-/
>
> Thanks,
> -- Marco
> .
Thank you very much, we will try the suggestions you give.
Thanks,
-- Peng Liu
.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-26 12:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-24 2:52 [PATCH RFC 0/3] " Peng Liu
2022-01-24 2:52 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] kfence: " Peng Liu
2022-01-24 8:19 ` Marco Elver
2022-01-24 11:24 ` liupeng (DM)
2022-01-24 11:32 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-01-24 11:45 ` Marco Elver
2022-01-24 11:55 ` Marco Elver
2022-01-26 12:09 ` liupeng (DM) [this message]
2022-01-24 2:52 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] kfence: Optimize branches prediction when sample interval is zero Peng Liu
2022-01-24 8:20 ` Marco Elver
2022-01-24 2:52 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] kfence: Make test case compatible with run time set sample interval Peng Liu
2022-01-24 8:25 ` Marco Elver
2022-01-24 12:18 ` liupeng (DM)
2022-01-24 12:21 ` Marco Elver
2022-01-26 12:12 ` liupeng (DM)
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