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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@linux.com,
	david@redhat.com, hailong.liu@oppo.com, hch@infradead.org,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, laoar.shao@gmail.com,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	urezki@gmail.com, v-songbaohua@oppo.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:37:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c0e3013-2016-491d-97b0-6c1b25c9a3eb@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZtFzvU1wiBSlhzzY@tiehlicka>

On 8/30/24 09:24, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 30-08-24 10:31:14, Barry Song wrote:
>> > > > Patch 4/4: We will move the order > 1 check from the current fast path
>> > > > to the slow path and extend
>> > > >                  the check of gfp_direct_reclaim flag also in the slow path.
>> > >
>> > > OK, let's have that go in now as well.
>> 
>> Hi Michal and Vlastimil,
>> Could you please review the changes below before I send v4 for patch 4/4?
>> 
>> 1. We should consolidate all warnings in one place. Currently, the order > 1 warning is
>> in the hotpath, while others are in less likely scenarios. Moving all warnings to the
>> slowpath will reduce the overhead for order > 1 and increase the visibility of other
>> warnings.
>> 
>> 2. We currently have two warnings for order: one for order > 1 in the hotpath and another
>> for order > costly_order in the laziest path. I suggest standardizing on order > 1 since
>> it’s been in use for a long time.
>> 
>> 3.I don't think we need to check for __GFP_NOWARN in this case. __GFP_NOWARN is
>> meant to suppress allocation failure reports, but here we're dealing with bug detection, not
>> allocation failures.

Ack. __GFP_NOWARN is to suppress warnings in case the allocation has a less
expensive fallback to the current attempt, which logically means the current
attempt can't be a __GFP_NOFAIL one. So having both is a bug itself (not
worth reporting) so we can just ignore __GFP_NOWARN.

>> So I'd rather use WARN_ON_ONCE than WARN_ON_ONCE_GFP.
>> 
>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> index c81ee5662cc7..0d3dd679d0ab 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> @@ -3033,12 +3033,6 @@ struct page *rmqueue(struct zone *preferred_zone,
>>  {
>>  	struct page *page;
>>  
>> -	/*
>> -	 * We most definitely don't want callers attempting to
>> -	 * allocate greater than order-1 page units with __GFP_NOFAIL.
>> -	 */
>> -	WARN_ON_ONCE((gfp_flags & __GFP_NOFAIL) && (order > 1));
>> -
>>  	if (likely(pcp_allowed_order(order))) {
>>  		page = rmqueue_pcplist(preferred_zone, zone, order,
>>  				       migratetype, alloc_flags);
>> @@ -4174,6 +4168,7 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>>  						struct alloc_context *ac)
>>  {
>>  	bool can_direct_reclaim = gfp_mask & __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM;
>> +	bool nofail = gfp_mask & __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM;

__GFP_NOFAIL

>>  	bool can_compact = gfp_compaction_allowed(gfp_mask);
>>  	const bool costly_order = order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER;
>>  	struct page *page = NULL;
>> @@ -4187,6 +4182,25 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>>  	unsigned int zonelist_iter_cookie;
>>  	int reserve_flags;
>>  
>> +	if (nofail) {

Could add unlikely() to put it off the instruction cache hotpath.

>> +		/*
>> +		 * We most definitely don't want callers attempting to
>> +		 * allocate greater than order-1 page units with __GFP_NOFAIL.
>> +		 */
>> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(order > 1);
>> +		/*
>> +		 * Also we don't support __GFP_NOFAIL without __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM,
>> +		 * otherwise, we may result in lockup.
>> +		 */
>> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(!can_direct_reclaim);
>> +		/*
>> +		 * PF_MEMALLOC request from this context is rather bizarre
>> +		 * because we cannot reclaim anything and only can loop waiting
>> +		 * for somebody to do a work for us.
>> +		 */
>> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC);
>> +	}
> 
> Yes, this makes sense. Any reason you have not put that int the nofail
> branch below?

Because that branch is executed only when we're already so depleted we gave
up retrying, and we want to warn about the buggy users more reliably (see
point 1 above).

>> +
>>  restart:
>>  	compaction_retries = 0;
>>  	no_progress_loops = 0;
>> @@ -4404,29 +4418,15 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>>  	 * Make sure that __GFP_NOFAIL request doesn't leak out and make sure
>>  	 * we always retry
>>  	 */
>> -	if (gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL) {
>> +	if (nofail) {
>>  		/*
>> -		 * All existing users of the __GFP_NOFAIL are blockable, so warn
>> -		 * of any new users that actually require GFP_NOWAIT
>> +		 * Lacking direct_reclaim we can't do anything to reclaim memory,
>> +		 * we disregard these unreasonable nofail requests and still
>> +		 * return NULL
>>  		 */
>> -		if (WARN_ON_ONCE_GFP(!can_direct_reclaim, gfp_mask))
>> +		if (!can_direct_reclaim)
>>  			goto fail;
>>  
>> -		/*
>> -		 * PF_MEMALLOC request from this context is rather bizarre
>> -		 * because we cannot reclaim anything and only can loop waiting
>> -		 * for somebody to do a work for us
>> -		 */
>> -		WARN_ON_ONCE_GFP(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC, gfp_mask);
>> -
>> -		/*
>> -		 * non failing costly orders are a hard requirement which we
>> -		 * are not prepared for much so let's warn about these users
>> -		 * so that we can identify them and convert them to something
>> -		 * else.
>> -		 */
>> -		WARN_ON_ONCE_GFP(costly_order, gfp_mask);
>> -
>>  		/*
>>  		 * Help non-failing allocations by giving some access to memory
>>  		 * reserves normally used for high priority non-blocking
>> 
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Michal Hocko
>> > > SUSE Labs
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Barry
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-30  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-17  6:24 Barry Song
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] vduse: avoid using __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: document __GFP_NOFAIL must be blockable Barry Song
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails Barry Song
2024-08-19  9:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19  9:47     ` Barry Song
2024-08-19  9:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:02         ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:33           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:48             ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:49               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 17:12                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 17:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 20:24                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 20:35                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 22:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-20  6:17                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 12:51               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:53                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 13:14                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:05                 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:10                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:19                     ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:22                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-18  2:55   ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18  3:48     ` Barry Song
2024-08-18  5:51       ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18  6:27         ` Barry Song
2024-08-18  6:45           ` Barry Song
2024-08-18  7:07             ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18  7:25               ` Barry Song
2024-08-19  7:51               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19  7:50     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19  9:25       ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19  9:39         ` Barry Song
2024-08-19  9:45           ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 10:10             ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 11:56               ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:17                   ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 14:01                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 10:17         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 11:56           ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:04             ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:19     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:02 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 16:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 19:23     ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 19:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:48         ` Barry Song
2024-08-20  6:24         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-21 12:40     ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-21 22:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  6:21         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  6:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  6:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  7:47               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  7:57                 ` Barry Song
2024-08-22  8:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  8:39                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  9:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:16                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:24                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:11                       ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:33                           ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:59                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 10:30                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 10:46                                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:27                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  9:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:43                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  9:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 11:58                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-08-26 12:10                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27  6:57                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-27  7:15                               ` Barry Song
2024-08-27  7:38                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27  7:50                                   ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 10:24                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-29 11:53                                       ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 13:20                                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-29 21:27                                           ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 22:31                                             ` Barry Song
2024-08-30  7:24                                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-30  7:37                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-08-22  9:41                           ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:42                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  7:01             ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22  7:54               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  8:04                 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 14:35                   ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-22 15:02                     ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22  6:37       ` Barry Song
2024-08-22 14:22         ` Yafang Shao

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