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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>,
	osalvador@suse.de, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs: hugetlbpage.rst: add free surplus huge pages description
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 10:20:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bb5fadd-583c-4c56-b52f-37eee516c1dd@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250419073214.2688926-1-tujinjiang@huawei.com>



On 4/19/25 12:32 AM, Jinjiang Tu wrote:
> When echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages is concurrent with freeing in-use
> huge pages to the huge page pool, some free huge pages may fail to be
> destroyed and accounted as surplus. The counts are like below:
> 
>   HugePages_Total: 1024
>   HugePages_Free: 1024
>   HugePages_Surp: 1024
> 
> When set_max_huge_pages() decrease the pool size, it first return free
> pages to the buddy allocator, and then account other pages as surplus.
> Between the two steps, the hugetlb_lock is released to free memory and
> require the hugetlb_lock again. If another process free huge pages to the
> pool between the two steps, these free huge pages will be accounted as
> surplus.
> 
> Besides, Free surplus huge pages come from failing to restore vmemmap.
> 
> Once the two situation occurs, users couldn't directly shrink the huge
> page pool via echo 0 > nr_hugepages, should use one of the two ways to
> destroy these free surplus huge pages:
>  1) echo $nr_surplus > nr_hugepages to convert the surplus free huge pages
> to persistent free huge pages first, and then echo 0 > nr_hugepages to
> destroy these huge pages.
>  2) allocate these free surplus huge pages, and will try to destroy them
> when freeing them.
> 
> However, there is no documentation to describe it, users may be confused
> and don't know how to handle in such case. So update the documention.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst | 11 +++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst
> index 67a941903fd2..0456cefae039 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst
> @@ -239,6 +239,17 @@ this condition holds--that is, until ``nr_hugepages+nr_overcommit_hugepages`` is
>  increased sufficiently, or the surplus huge pages go out of use and are freed--
>  no more surplus huge pages will be allowed to be allocated.
>  
> +Caveat: Shrinking the persistent huge page pool via ``nr_hugepages`` may be
> +concurrent with freeing in-use huge pages to the huge page pool, leading to some
> +huge pages are still in the huge page pool and accounted as surplus. Besides,
> +When the feature of freeing unused vmemmap pages associated with each hugetlb page

   when

> +is enabled, free huge page may be accounted as surplus too. In such two cases, users
> +couldn't directly shrink the huge page pool via echo 0 to ``nr_hugepages``, should

                                                                               but should


Also, please limit each line to <80 characters.

> +echo $nr_surplus to ``nr_hugepages`` to convert the surplus free huge pages to
> +persistent free huge pages first, and then echo 0 to ``nr_hugepages`` to destroy
> +these huge pages. Another way to destroy is allocating these free surplus huge
> +pages and these huge pages will be tried to destroy when they are freed.
> +

But I don't see why this is a user problem to be solved by users...

>  With support for multiple huge page pools at run-time available, much of
>  the huge page userspace interface in ``/proc/sys/vm`` has been duplicated in
>  sysfs.

-- 
~Randy



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-19 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-19  7:32 Jinjiang Tu
2025-04-19 17:20 ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2025-04-21  1:56   ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-04-22 13:02 ` Jinjiang Tu

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