From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/39] mm/rmap: interface overhaul
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 13:31:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ba5dd86-a201-4243-bab0-349395468236@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <067753e4-faf0-4bc0-9703-ec97b7de705e@redhat.com>
On 05/12/2023 09:56, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>> Ryan has series where we would make use of folio_remove_rmap_ptes() [1]
>>> -- he carries his own batching variant right now -- and
>>> folio_try_dup_anon_rmap_ptes()/folio_dup_file_rmap_ptes() [2].
>>
>> Note that the contpte series at [2] has a new patch in v3 (patch 2), which could
>> benefit from folio_remove_rmap_ptes() or equivalent. My plan was to revive [1]
>> on top of [2] once it is merged.
>>
>>>
>>> There is some overlap with both series (and some other work, like
>>> multi-size THP [3]), so that will need some coordination, and likely a
>>> stepwise inclusion.
>>
>> Selfishly, I'd really like to get my stuff merged as soon as there is no
>> technical reason not to. I'd prefer not to add this as a dependency if we can
>> help it.
>
> It's easy to rework either series on top of each other. The mTHP series has
> highest priority,
> no question, that will go in first.
Music to my ears! It would be great to either get a reviewed-by or feedback on
why not, for the key 2 patches in that series (3 & 4) and also your opinion on
whether we need to wait for compaction to land (see cover letter). It would be
great to get this into linux-next ASAP IMHO.
>
> Regarding the contpte, I think it needs more work. Especially, as raised, to not
> degrade
> order-0 performance. Maybe we won't make the next merge window (and you already
> predicated
> that in some cover letter :P ). Let's see.
Yeah that's ok. I'll do the work to fix the order-0 perf. And also do the same
for patch 2 in that series - would also be really helpful if you had a chance to
look at patch 2 - its new for v3.
>
> But again, the conflicts are all trivial, so I'll happily rebase on top of
> whatever is
> in mm-unstable. Or move the relevant rework to the front so you can just carry
> them/base on them. (the batched variants for dup do make the contpte code much
> easier)
So perhaps we should aim for mTHP, then this, then contpte last, benefiting from
the batching.
>
> [...]
>
>>>
>>>
>>> New (extended) hugetlb interface that operate on entire folio:
>>> * hugetlb_add_new_anon_rmap() -> Already existed
>>> * hugetlb_add_anon_rmap() -> Already existed
>>> * hugetlb_try_dup_anon_rmap()
>>> * hugetlb_try_share_anon_rmap()
>>> * hugetlb_add_file_rmap()
>>> * hugetlb_remove_rmap()
>>>
>>> New "ordinary" interface for small folios / THP::
>>> * folio_add_new_anon_rmap() -> Already existed
>>> * folio_add_anon_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
>>> * folio_try_dup_anon_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
>>> * folio_try_share_anon_rmap_[pte|pmd]()
>>> * folio_add_file_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
>>> * folio_dup_file_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
>>> * folio_remove_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
>>
>> I'm not sure if there are official guidelines, but personally if we are
>> reworking the API, I'd take the opportunity to move "rmap" to the front of the
>> name, rather than having it burried in the middle as it is for some of these:
>>
>> rmap_hugetlb_*()
>>
>> rmap_folio_*()
>
> No strong opinion. But we might want slightly different names then. For example,
> it's "bio_add_folio" and not "bio_folio_add":
>
>
> rmap_add_new_anon_hugetlb()
> rmap_add_anon_hugetlb()
> ...
> rmap_remove_hugetlb()
>
>
> rmap_add_new_anon_folio()
> rmap_add_anon_folio_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
> ...
> rmap_dup_file_folio_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
> rmap_remove_folio_[pte|ptes|pmd]()
>
> Thoughts?
Having now reviewed your series, I have a less strong opinion, perhaps it's
actually best with your original names; "folio" is actually the subject after
all; it's the thing being operated on.
>
>>
>> I guess reading the patches will tell me, but what's the point of "ptes"? Surely
>> you're either mapping at pte or pmd level, and the number of pages is determined
>> by the folio size? (or presumably nr param passed in)
>
> It's really (currently) one function to handle 1 vs. multiple PTEs. For example:
>
> void folio_remove_rmap_ptes(struct folio *, struct page *, unsigned int nr,
> struct vm_area_struct *);
> #define folio_remove_rmap_pte(folio, page, vma) \
> folio_remove_rmap_ptes(folio, page, 1, vma)
> void folio_remove_rmap_pmd(struct folio *, struct page *,
> struct vm_area_struct *);
Yeah now that I've looked at the series, this makes sense. "ptes" was originally
making me think of contpte, but I suspect I'll be the only one with that
association :)
>
>
> Once could let the compiler generate specialized variants for the single-pte
> versions to make the order-0 case faster. For now it's just a helper macro.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-05 13:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-04 14:21 David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 01/39] mm/rmap: rename hugepage_add* to hugetlb_add* David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 02/39] mm/rmap: introduce and use hugetlb_remove_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 1:22 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-06 12:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 0:56 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 03/39] mm/rmap: introduce and use hugetlb_add_file_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 1:22 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 04/39] mm/rmap: introduce and use hugetlb_try_dup_anon_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 1:22 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 05/39] mm/rmap: introduce and use hugetlb_try_share_anon_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 1:23 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 06/39] mm/rmap: add hugetlb sanity checks David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 1:23 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 07/39] mm/rmap: convert folio_add_file_rmap_range() into folio_add_file_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 12:04 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 12:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 1:30 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-12-06 9:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 08/39] mm/memory: page_add_file_rmap() -> folio_add_file_rmap_[pte|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 1:40 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 09/39] mm/huge_memory: page_add_file_rmap() -> folio_add_file_rmap_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 1:41 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 10/39] mm/migrate: page_add_file_rmap() -> folio_add_file_rmap_pte() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 1:42 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 11/39] mm/userfaultfd: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 1:42 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 12/39] mm/rmap: remove page_add_file_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 1:42 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 13/39] mm/rmap: factor out adding folio mappings into __folio_add_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 1:44 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 14/39] mm/rmap: introduce folio_add_anon_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 15/39] mm/huge_memory: batch rmap operations in __split_huge_pmd_locked() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 12:22 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 12:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 16/39] mm/huge_memory: page_add_anon_rmap() -> folio_add_anon_rmap_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 17/39] mm/migrate: page_add_anon_rmap() -> folio_add_anon_rmap_pte() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 18/39] mm/ksm: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 19/39] mm/swapfile: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 20/39] mm/memory: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 21/39] mm/rmap: remove page_add_anon_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 22/39] mm/rmap: remove RMAP_COMPOUND David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 23/39] mm/rmap: introduce folio_remove_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 12:52 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 13:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 24/39] kernel/events/uprobes: page_remove_rmap() -> folio_remove_rmap_pte() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 25/39] mm/huge_memory: page_remove_rmap() -> folio_remove_rmap_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 26/39] mm/khugepaged: page_remove_rmap() -> folio_remove_rmap_pte() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 27/39] mm/ksm: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 28/39] mm/memory: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 29/39] mm/migrate_device: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 30/39] mm/rmap: " David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 31/39] Documentation: stop referring to page_remove_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 32/39] mm/rmap: remove page_remove_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 33/39] mm/rmap: convert page_dup_file_rmap() to folio_dup_file_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 34/39] mm/rmap: introduce folio_try_dup_anon_rmap_[pte|ptes|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 17:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:12 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 13:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:40 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 13:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 14:02 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 14:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:40 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 35/39] mm/huge_memory: page_try_dup_anon_rmap() -> folio_try_dup_anon_rmap_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 36/39] mm/memory: page_try_dup_anon_rmap() -> folio_try_dup_anon_rmap_pte() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 37/39] mm/rmap: remove page_try_dup_anon_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 38/39] mm: convert page_try_share_anon_rmap() to folio_try_share_anon_rmap_[pte|pmd]() David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC 39/39] mm/rmap: rename COMPOUND_MAPPED to ENTIRELY_MAPPED David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 19:53 ` [PATCH RFC 00/39] mm/rmap: interface overhaul Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 9:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:31 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-12-05 13:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 13:49 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 11:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-08 11:38 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 12:29 ` Ryan Roberts
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